<div dir="ltr"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>One advantage that HomeBrew does have, though, is cachet: There are
so many times when articles - or even organizations, such as Google -
simply recommend using HomeBrew… with no mention of MacPorts.</div><div><br></div><div>So,
my feeling is that we need to up our public relations game. Do we have
an active social media presence, for example? (Twitter in particular?)</div><div><br></div><div>Of note, while I’m not an expert in social media relations, I’d happily volunteer to help with it.</div><div><br></div><div>Thoughts?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I completely agree with this point. Due to MacPorts' low social media visibility, and thus low mind share in this day and age, it seems that lots of people, even including software authors, don't seem to consider MacPorts as a viable (or at the very least, a mainstream) method of obtaining software. I see plenty of open source projects have a blurb on their websites saying "<software_name> is available through Homebrew using 'brew install --cask <software_name>'", but I never see an equivalent blurb for MacPorts these days.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I also agree with Andrew Janke's point that "MacPorts feels
like more of a "pro" thing and serious sysadmin tool, and its
command output can be kind of technical and intimidating." MacPorts essentially adds a *nix-style package management system onto a Mac, and these *nix PMSes are also (in)famous for feeling technical and intimidating. Perhaps a GUI like Pallet would help in this regard? There seems to be much higher comfort levels with GUI-based "app stores", even among non-technical users.<br></div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>-- </div><div>Jason Liu<br></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 10:12 AM Christopher Nielsen <<a href="mailto:mascguy@rochester.rr.com" target="_blank">mascguy@rochester.rr.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><blockquote type="cite"><i><font color="#000000">Ken Cunningham wrote:<br></font></i><br>homebrew is in shambles.<br><br>their long-touted "no-sudo" and "no PATH" advantage from installing into /usr/local has been eliminated by Apple as the horrible security threat it always was. They have to retool into /opt/homebrew and make 10,000 builds respect the build args now.<br><br>They stripped out all their universal handling code a few years ago, can't put it back, and so can't do the critical universal builds any more. They tell everyone universal is wasteful, lipo things manually, and run the x86_64 homebrew on Apple Silicon.<br><br>So MacPorts, which works great from 10.4 PPC to 11.x arm64, is the place to be.</blockquote><br><div>Personnally, I’ve never actually tried HomeBrew, as I didn’t want anything installed into core OS areas. And after choosing MacPorts years ago - 10+ at this point? - I’ve always been very happy with the experience. Enough so that I’m finally giving back, as a contributor!</div><div><br></div><div>One advantage that HomeBrew does have, though, is cachet: There are so many times when articles - or even organizations, such as Google - simply recommend using HomeBrew… with no mention of MacPorts.</div><div><br></div><div>So, my feeling is that we need to up our public relations game. Do we have an active social media presence, for example? (Twitter in particular?)</div><div><br></div><div>Of note, while I’m not an expert in social media relations, I’d happily volunteer to help with it.</div><div><br></div><div>Thoughts?</div></div></blockquote></div>