<div dir="ltr"><div>Yeah, I was thinking of the US as well, and I meant non-profit, which doesn't have tax deductible donations but is assumed to not make money. The problem is there is a lot of work around becoming a legal entity and accepting donations or whatever. I honestly have no idea how much work exactly - but certainly not zero. I have no idea how non-US entities work.</div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>—Mark<br></div><div>_______________________<br>Mark E. Anderson <<a href="mailto:mark@macports.org" target="_blank">mark@macports.org</a>><br></div><div><a href="https://trac.macports.org/wiki/mark" target="_blank">MacPorts Trac WikiPage</a><br></div><div><a href="https://github.com/markemer" target="_blank">GitHub Profile</a><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 2:02 AM Ryan Schmidt <<a href="mailto:ryandesign@macports.org">ryandesign@macports.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On May 16, 2021, at 14:46, Mark Anderson wrote:<br>
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> I keep wondering if we became like a not-for-profit If we could get someone like MacStadium or Amazon or something to donate server time to us. Or accept donations from Github sponsorship. I could look into what that would take, although it might be way more trouble than it's worth. I think my current corp lawyer knows non-profit law - I could bring it up next time I see them.<br>
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MacStadium already donates the use of an Apple Silicon Mac mini to us. I am not aware of whether Amazon offers free persistent Mac servers with root access to open source projects.<br>
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Accepting donations through GitHub Sponsors or any other means would, I suspect, require the formation of a legal entity for MacPorts, which would be the owner of the business bank account we would probably have to open. We've discussed becoming a legal entity a few times over the years but it hasn't been done. If we do it, my preference would be for MacPorts to be a U.S. entity, since I am in the U.S. and since MacPorts was started by Apple and is for the benefit of Apple users and Apple is a U.S. company. A different suggestion was that we should join an existing free software organization and leave all the legalities up to them, and funnel donations through them. I don't think that idea was supported by everyone so that didn't happen either.<br>
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If we accepted donations, we would have to develop guidelines for how the donations could be spent.<br>
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Being recognized as a not-for-profit is a whole 'nother can of worms. First one has to form a legal entity, then one has to apply to be recognized as a not-for-profit (which incurs additional fees) and make a case for why that should be, a process which can take years, and the answer to the application could be no. For example there was increased scrutiny of non-profit organization applications in the field of open source software in 2010; see <a href="https://opensource.org/node/840" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://opensource.org/node/840</a>. That's what I recall from researching the process in the U.S. It may differ in other countries.<br>
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