<div dir="ltr"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">One reason, I'm staying on 10.6.8 is that I really like Spaces. I'm (primarily) using Remote Desktop to admin them as they are "head-less".</blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Another reason not going the Linux way is, that I find the macOS desktop to be far superior to the Linux desktops.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>You might be surprised. There have been a lot of advancements in terms of Linux desktop polish, and you can even turn your entire desktop environment into an (almost) exact clone of macOS' behavior, including Exposé and Spaces, and even the application dock along the bottom.</div><div><br></div><div>If you've ever heard of Linus Tech Tips, they're even currently doing a multi-part video series on "daily computing and gaming on Linux by a couple of people who have never used Linux" challenge.</div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>-- </div><div>Jason Liu</div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 9:41 AM Bjarne D Mathiesen <<a href="mailto:macintosh@mathiesen.info">macintosh@mathiesen.info</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Ken Cunningham wrote:<br>
>> System Version: Mac OS X 10.6.8 (10K549) Kernel Version: Darwin 10.8.0 <br>
> <br>
> It appears that you are running a 10.6.8 system (on a macmini, I think I saw?) <br>
<br>
Correct, I've got three of those :<br>
PowerMac10,1 w/ PowerPC 7447A (G4)<br>
Presently, I don't use it<br>
<br>
MacMini1,1 (originally Intel Core Duo 1.66 GHz)<br>
MacMini2,1<br>
both of these have been upgraded to<br>
Intel Core 2 Duo 2 GHz<br>
4 GB RAM<br>
although the MacMini1,1 is only able to see 2 GB [crying]<br>
and the MacMini2,1 can only use 3 GB of the 4 GB<br>
<br>
All of them have 2 x original OWC miniStack w/ the HDs in AppleRAID-1<br>
<br>
<br>
> and I think you appear to be using it as a server for various things.<br>
<br>
Correct - they have the full xAMP stack<br>
Apache 2.4 - MySQL 5.7 - PHP 8.1<br>
Postfix - Dovecot - sqlgrey<br>
<br>
> <br>
> In another spot, I see that it is a 32bit EFI Mac:<br>
> <br>
>> platform: macOS-10.6.8-i386-64bit <br>
<br>
Also correct<br>
<br>
> <br>
> If you are not using for much else beyond being a server, I thought I would let you know that this tiny like c program:<br>
> <br>
> <a href="https://github.com/demonicsweaters/make_single_eltorito.c" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/demonicsweaters/make_single_eltorito.c</a><br>
> <br>
> that compiles in 10 seconds or so, will slightly modify an Ubuntu 64 bit installer image to properly boot a 32bit EFI Mac, and you can then install Ubuntu 64 bit on there.<br>
> <br>
> Once it is installed, you’re good to go, and you can use 64bit software everywhere, including any 64 bit software you download rather than get from the main repo, like Spotify, Google Chrome, etc.<br>
> <br>
> I have this now running on 3 older Macs with 32bit EFI, and it works just beautifully. And if you are just using that as a server, you would be most likely many miles ahead to be running Ubuntu 20.04 with webmin than trying to keep teasing SnowLeopard along as a server.<br>
> <br>
> Just my $0.02 for whatever.<br>
<br>
[thumbs-up][nerd] Thank you for the hint [nerd][thumbs-up]<br>
<br>
Presently, I'm very much satisfied with my setup, but going to Linux on<br>
them is definitely one of the options I'm considering if I get into too<br>
many problems w/ being up-to-date. This is the 1st really serious<br>
problem I've had where I've had to abandon the MacMini for an<br>
alternative solution. Of course, not being able to upgrade to MySQL 8 is<br>
a bit of a nuisance, but not something I'm presently worrying about.<br>
<br>
One reason, I'm staying on 10.6.8 is that I really like Spaces.<br>
I'm (primarily) using Remote Desktop to admin them as they are "head-less".<br>
<br>
Another reason not going the Linux way is, that I find the macOS desktop<br>
to be far superior to the Linux desktops.<br>
<br>
> <br>
> Ken<br>
> <br>
> (PS - dual booting a MacOSX install of 10.6 or 10.7 works just fine too, using ReFIND: <a href="https://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/</a> )<br>
> <br>
<br>
Thanks.<br>
One reason to originally staying on 10.6.8 was that the MacMini1,1 isn't<br>
able to go to 10.7 without some hacking - at least not before upgrading<br>
the CPU. And I like to keep them at par on the software as the<br>
MacMini1,1 is my testing platform and backup.<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Bjarne D Mathiesen<br>
Korsør ; Danmark ; Europa<br>
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denne besked er skrevet i et totalt M$-frit miljø<br>
MacPro 2010 ; OpenCore + macOS 10.15.7 Catalina<br>
2 x 3,46 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon ; 256 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 ECC RDIMM<br>
ATI Radeon RX 590 8 GB<br>
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