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<div dir="auto">No point supporting anything below 10.5. All PowerPC machines that are actually usable can run 10.5–10.6.<br />
10.4 is much more broken than later systems and got no advantages.<br />
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While I do not appreciate Homebrew policy and do not think it would be wise to mimic it, it is reasonable to expect that MacPorts on PowerPC implies at least 10.5.8.</div>
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<div name="messageReplySection">On Jan 24, 2025 at 05:03 +0800, Marius Schamschula <lists@schamschula.com>, wrote:<br />
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<div>We overachieve in the backward compatibility!</div>
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<div>The folks over at Homebrew shake their heads when we say that we support systems older than current - 2.</div>
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<div>At some point we need to regularly move the window of supported systems forward.<br />
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<div>P.S.: My oldest functioning Mac is a MacBook G3 Pismo. It is air-gaped by incompatible/obsolete WiFi hardware, and even it is running Leopard/10.5 (I don’t have MacPorts installed on it).</div>
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<div>This year marks the 20th anniversary of the release of Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger. It's had a good run, but it's long been getting harder and harder to support. Upstream projects are understandably reluctant to add fixes for it. The very few users who open Trac tickets for Tiger issues are opening them considerably faster than they can be fixed. Maybe it's time to call it quits.<br />
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10.4 is of course already unsupported in the sense that we have no expectation that maintainers should fix any problems on OS versions older than current-2. So practically speaking, this would mean removing all workarounds for 10.4 from base in the next major MacPorts release, closing all 10.4 specific tickets as "wontfix", and beginning the process of removing workarounds for 10.4 from ports as they are updated.<br />
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What does everyone think?<br />
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