<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">I ran a vanilla Mac OS X box as a server, using the built in apache, etc., with a few hand compiled additions in the days of 10.2, 10.3 and 10.4. Easy enough, when you are used to running Linux (I switched from mkLinux - Apple’s microkernel Linux on PPC).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The late Mac OS X Server (10.6.8 Server, RIP) was great. The current server app has not come close to the old server OS in functionality.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div>No surprise about the "current” Apple versions of php and apache. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The only thing I’m more puzzled about is: why haven’t more people switched to nginx? I run internal mediawiki using nginx and php71-fpm.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">One of these days I’ll see if I can get apache2 to talk to php71-fpm. I’ve tried before w/o any success.<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 23, 2017, at 11:05 AM, William H. Magill <<a href="mailto:magill@mac.com" class="">magill@mac.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Apparently PhP is 7.1.7 - But I haven’t verified that version information yet.<br class=""><br class="">There are other issues as well besides currency. . .<br class=""><br class="">The Apple version is “technically” only available if you are running OSX Server, and unless Apple has dramatically improved both the GUI and Support, OSX Server, is really difficult to use if you want to do anything “normal — where “normal” means anything that is different from what Apple thinks you should be doing.<br class="">This is one situation where Apple’s “Walled garden” really does get in your face.<br class=""><br class="">Unless Apple has changed things in the past year or two, support for OSX Server is pretty well hidden — as what was then called “Enterprise Software.”<br class="">Trying to find information about OSX Server is itself a difficult slog … if you don’t know the “magic 800 number” to contact Enterprise Support directly, the normal support folks have no idea that the product even exists.<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Oct 23, 2017, at 11:21 AM, Marius Schamschula <<a href="mailto:lists@schamschula.com" class="">lists@schamschula.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Apple is famous for not keeping these packages up to date.<br class=""><br class="">MacPorts apache2 is already at version 2.4.28. When will Apple update? Who knows…<br class=""><br class="">Which version of php 7.1 does Apple have? 7.1.10? When will they update to the current version?<br class=""><br class="">Marius<br class="">--<br class="">Marius Schamschula<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Oct 23, 2017, at 10:14 AM, Murray Eisenberg <<a href="mailto:murrayeisenberg@gmail.com" class="">murrayeisenberg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">OnSun, 22 Oct 2017 13:48:02 -0400,"William H. Magill" <<a href="mailto:magill@mac.com" class="">magill@mac.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">...for what it’s worth. I note that High Sierra now includes both Apache2 2.4.27 and PhP 7.1 in its distribution … already integrated.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">So why might we still need the MacPorts versions of Apache2 and PHP 7.1?<br class=""><br class="">(Is it just a matter of keeping their versions current, which Apple may or may not do, or customizations that are not as easy to do with the High Sierra-supplied versions?)<br class="">---<br class="">Murray Eisenberg<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><a href="mailto:murrayeisenberg@gmail.com" class="">murrayeisenberg@gmail.com</a><br class="">503 King Farm Blvd #101<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Home (240)-246-7240<br class="">Rockville, MD 20850-6667<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Mobile (413)-427-5334<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><br class="">T.T.F.N.<br class="">William H. Magill<br class=""># iMac11,3 Core i7 [2.93GHz - 8 GB 1067MHz] OS X 10.13<br class=""># Macmini6,1 Intel Core i5 [2.5 Ghz - 4GB 1600MHz] OS X 10.13<br class=""><br class=""><a href="mailto:magill@icloud.com" class="">magill@icloud.com</a><br class="">magill@mac.com<br class="">whmagill@gmail.com<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></body></html>