<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Me too. I certainly don't have any interest in turning this into another /usr/local rehash, for sure, as that is pointless.</div><div><br></div><div>Just recognizing what is going on out there, and trying to stay as relevant as possible in a VHS / Beta sorta way.</div><div><br></div><div>homebrew is easier to use, and works for 99% of people without any trouble.</div><div><br></div><div>MacPorts is better in most ways, but a bit harder to use, and has more of a learning curve to it.</div><div><br></div><div>Once you start installing _all_ software using a Portfile, I find it's way easier to use MacPorts.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Ken</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On 2018-02-14, at 2:13 PM, Peter West wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">One of the reasons I prefer MacPorts is that it does NOT install in /usr/local.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I am still in the habit of thinking that /usr/local is a system directory that is expected to be inaccessible to the masses (me in this case.)  Some independent installers, like that for mysql, installed in /usr/local, and I presume the thinking is similar. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">When Apple declared open season on /usr/local, was it because of the difficulties posed by SIP, or did it precede that?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’ve had some success installing brew in /opt/homebrew, despite dire warnings not to.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Peter</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 15 Feb 2018, at 5:46 am, Ken Cunningham <<a href="mailto:ken.cunningham.webuse@gmail.com" class="">ken.cunningham.webuse@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div></blockquote>…</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="">In a recent poll <<a href="https://www.slant.co/versus/1588/1674/~macports_vs_homebrew" class="">https://www.slant.co/versus/1588/1674/~macports_vs_homebrew</a>>, homebrew was recommended 375 to 25 over MacPorts.<br class=""></div></div></blockquote>…<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="">2. symlinks into /usr/local therefore:<br class="">    a) no adjustments needed to path<br class="">    b) no need for sudo<br class="">    c) third-party apps, libraries, and xcode projects can be downloaded and built or run, and the system looks there by default, so need no modification to build or run. <br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div>\<div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -web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