<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">sites do not care specifically about the OS version, but the SSL/TLS levels that are supported. When a connection is opened the server and client first negotiate what to use, based on what the client supports and what the server requires. If the client cannot provide what the server requires, the connection is denied.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If you want more information on this, you need to do your own research. A web search for SSL/TLS should be a good start.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Chris<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 17 Aug 2019, at 12:30 pm, Dmitri Zaitsev <<a href="mailto:zaitsev@maths.tcd.ie" class="">zaitsev@maths.tcd.ie</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="">It would be critical for me to know which versions are supported and compatible with my old hardware to run without issues.<br class=""></div><div class="">Otherwise I might end up dealing with problems much worse than this one.<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Are you saying these site explicitly deny connections based on the OS version number, regardless of the actual client I am using?<br class=""></div><div class="">I find this puzzling as I only need the read access via my client that should not need to pass any details such as OS version to the site.<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Is there anywhere I could find some information about this issue?<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thank you,<br class=""></div><div class="">Dmitri.<br class=""></div><div class=""> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""></div>I cannot give you OS versions, but the core issue is a lot of sites have turned off support for old insecure SSL/TLS versions, and macOS10.8 does not have support for the newer ones they now require.</div><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Chris</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I do appreciate your time and fully understand that this is not your concern but would be still thankful if anyone could advice on how to configure MacPorts to use the recent ssl.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,</div><div class="">Dmitri.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><br class="">On Saturday, August 17, 2019, Christopher Jones <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk" class="">jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word;" class="">Hi,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">First, please keep the discussion on the mailing list.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">just installing the up to date ports for openssl etc. is not enough, as by default the fetches macports performs will not use these. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I believe there are ways to bootstrap macports to do this, but as I have no need of it (I don’t run such old OSes myself, apart from in VMs for test purposes) I cannot comment on how that is done.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">( Updating your OS is really the best option, if your hardware supports a new OSes. 10.8 hs not received any security updates for quite a while now…. )</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">cheers Chris </div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 17 Aug 2019, at 11:48 am, Dmitri Zaitsev <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:zaitsev@maths.tcd.ie" class="">zaitsev@maths.tcd.ie</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class="">Thank you!<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I am trying to understand the cause and it seems my both openssl and ssh are recent.</div><div class="">Any other idea where to look for (other than OS upgrading :-)?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a target="_blank" href="https://trac.macports.org/ticket/58848#comment:4" class="">https://trac.macports.org/ticket/58848#comment:4</a></div><div class=""><br class=""><br class="">On Saturday, August 17, 2019, Christopher Jones <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk" class="">jonesc@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word;" class="">Hi,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have commented on both tickets. They are in essence the same problem, the out of date SSL support in macOS10.8 that is causing you https fetch issues.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">cheers Chris<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 17 Aug 2019, at 11:06 am, Dmitri Zaitsev <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:zaitsev@maths.tcd.ie" class="">zaitsev@maths.tcd.ie</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class="">Please see <div class=""><a target="_blank" href="https://trac.macports.org/ticket/58847" class="">https://trac.macports.org/ticket/58847</a></div><div class=""><a target="_blank" href="https://trac.macports.org/ticket/58848" class="">https://trac.macports.org/ticket/58848</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have managed to get around the first one by manually downloading the file, but have no idea what to do about the second, which might have the same cause (failed downloads).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Any hint is appreciated.</div><div class=""><br class=""><br class="">On Saturday, August 17, 2019, Ryan Schmidt <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:ryandesign@macports.org" class="">ryandesign@macports.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><br class=""><br class="">On Aug 16, 2019, at 02:14, Dmitri Zaitsev wrote:<br class=""><br class="">> Unfortunately it got worse, I can't install any port at all now. :(<br class=""><br class="">Sorry to hear that... can you provide any more details?<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div><br class=""><br class="">--<span class="gmail-m_-9208574459267444316Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Dmitri Zaitsev<br class="">School of Mathematics<br class="">Trinity College Dublin<br class=""><br class="">WWW: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.maths.tcd.ie/%7Ezaitsev/" class="">http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~zaitsev/</a><br class=""><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><br class="">--<span class="gmail-m_-9208574459267444316Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Dmitri Zaitsev<br class="">School of Mathematics<br class="">Trinity College Dublin<br class=""><br class="">WWW: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.maths.tcd.ie/%7Ezaitsev/" class="">http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~zaitsev/</a><br class=""><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><br class="">--<span class="gmail-m_-9208574459267444316Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Dmitri Zaitsev<br class="">School of Mathematics<br class="">Trinity College Dublin<br class=""><br class="">WWW: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.maths.tcd.ie/%7Ezaitsev/" class="">http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~zaitsev/</a><br class=""><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></blockquote><br style="font-family: Helvetica; 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