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    <p><font size="2">I understand, this would be a very naive approach,
        thanks for the little explanation.</font></p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 29/10/2024 à 11:06, Chris Jones a
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        <blockquote type="cite">On 29 Oct 2024, at 9:34 am, Fabien
          Auréjac <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:fabien.aurejac@gmail.com"><fabien.aurejac@gmail.com></a> wrote:<br>
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          <p><font size="2">But this suggest me another question, do
              macports binaries upload from my computer the results of
              the compilation that happened, to help the community in
              later installations ?</font><br>
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      No, that does not happen and is absolutely not something we would
      want for many reasons. There are dedicated resources for these
      builds, see e.g.
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            <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 29/10/2024 à 10:28, Fabien
              Auréjac a écrit :<br>
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              <p><font size="2">Thank you, I was not aware of this.
                  Excuse me for the mistake, I'm quite new to </font><font
                  size="2"> language </font><font size="2">compilation
                  concepts.<br>
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              <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 29/10/2024 à 10:23, Chris
                Jones via macports-users a écrit :<br>
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                On 29/10/2024 1:11 am, Fabien Auréjac wrote: <br>
                <blockquote type="cite">Hello, after upgrading to
                  Sequoia, all worked flawlessly without need of
                  anything, but when I tried to update macports via port
                  selfupdate, it asked for a migration. <br>
                  <br>
                  All seems to be working well, but I'm quite surprised
                  about the time it takes... for 500+ ports, more than 8
                  hours of compilation on a macMini M1, and it's not
                  finished...? <br>
                  <br>
                  On Sonoma compiling seemed to be really faster... Is
                  this due to the process of migration ? <br>
                  <br>
                  Or is it a regression of performance due to some sort
                  of macOS performance or security clamping ? <br>
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                You are comparing Apples with Oranges... Currently there
                are no binary tarballs for any ports on macOS15 with
                arm, as the buildbot has not yet been commissioned. So
                consequently you have to build everything from source
                which obviously takes a lot longer than a binary
                install. macOS14 arm does have binary tarballs. <br>
                <br>
                Chris <br>
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