port search

Randall Wood rhwood at mac.com
Sat Sep 22 07:34:44 PDT 2007


It is possible to use Pallet to search the port tree by name,  
description, category all at once.

Pallet can be installed via MacPorts and is still pre-alpha, so the  
searching is about all its good for at this point.

On 22 Sep 2007, at 08:48, N_Ox wrote:

>
> Le 22 sept. 07 à 12:30, Mij a écrit :
>
>>
>> On 21/set/07, at 18:31, N_Ox wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Le 21 sept. 07 à 12:34, Mij a écrit :
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 21/set/07, at 08:00, N_Ox wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Le 20 sept. 07 à 20:44, Mij a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wouldn't it be better to make "search" actually searching  
>>>>>> thoughout descriptions too?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just use `port search description:fortran`.
>>>>
>>>> Automatically searching in the name AND description would be  
>>>> more handy,
>>>> consistent with other package managers and intuitive.
>>>>
>>>> If one want to search the name alone, it can use "search name:"  
>>>> instead.
>>>>
>>>> JM2C
>>>
>>> I don't find it consistent with other package managers (at least  
>>> not Fink, Portage or pkgsrc)
>>
>> Some examples doing so:
>> APT - the first and sometimes told the best -ever package manager
>> yum - redhat's one
>> ports
>> (I don't know more)
>>
>> fink also does.
>>
>> Besides all, it all depends to what you want to be inspired.  
>> Portage is what most people
>> argue is the reason why the "Gentoo wave" weakened in favour to  
>> Ubuntu. Pkgsrc has a
>> very restricted userbase so they probably haven't a strong  
>> feedback about usability
>> topics.
>>
>
> Fink does not, fink gives user two different commands to achieve  
> name and name + description search.
> Concerning Portage, it's my "best -ever package manager", and i  
> would like some features of it being ported to MacPorts (who said  
> slots?).
>
>>
>>> neither than more intuitive.
>>
>> you usually prefer to issue one search, get a list of some results  
>> that you walk and
>> ignore the ones you're not interested in, better than not finding  
>> what you wanted to,
>> and need to issue another command to find the rest to be sure.
>>
>> And, as if you're coming from one package manager you're most  
>> probably coming
>> from one between APT, yum or ports, you could expect that the  
>> search is in name AND
>> description, and give up when you see that searching for "editor"  
>> has no results and
>> erroneously conclude that macports portbase is still poor.
>>
>
> Search for editor inside description is no good anyway, you would  
> rather do `port search category:editors`
>
>> Anyway, try to make a balanced comparison and take your choice.
>>
>> bye
>>
>
> IMHO The only thing we need is better documentation, and this  
> problem will soon disappear.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Anthony Ramine, the infamous MacPorts Trac slave.
> nox at macports.org
>
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