Java port questions (Re: ActiveMQ port submission)
blair at orcaware.com
Wed Jan 13 21:49:44 PST 2010
Dan Ports wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 01:14:40AM +0100, Jann R??der wrote:
>> somebody created a port for ActiveMQ:
>> http://trac.macports.org/ticket/23143 . The port however has the problem
>> that non-root users cannot run it since it wants to write to
>> /opt/local/share/java/activemq . I told the submitter that he has to
>> install a config file so that the port works out of the box for non-root
>> users and doesn't write to /opt/local/share/java/activemq. What is the
>> official policy for such things? Do ports have to work out of the box?
> I submitted that portfile, so feel compelled to respond -- but note
> that I have no real familiarity with ActiveMQ other than offering to
> help write a portfile.
> Being a Java-based port, it brought up a few other issues that I didn't
> have a good answer to. I tried to resolve them based on a (highly
> scientific) study of some other random Java ports. But it's probably
> worth clarifying policy on these:
> - ActiveMQ has both a source and binary distribution. Which should we
> use? I went with the binary not just out of simple laziness but also
> because it depended on some Java packages that we didn't already have
> ports for. (I guess that'd be a more sophisticated form of laziness.)
> I found a bunch of ports of each type: source or binary installs.
For Java ports I never have a problem installing the binaries unless a patch is
needed. I don't see why people like to recompile Java packages from source.
> If going with a binary install, then:
> - the binary install is designed to be run out of its directory, so the
> port puts a bunch of stuff in
> /opt/local/share/java/activemq. I agree with Jann that some of it really
> doesn't belong there, including apparently logfiles. But I'm not
> entirely clear on what should be moved and where.
log files should go into $prefix/var/log.
> - the binary distribution includes all of its library dependencies,
> leading to a bunch of jar files in
> /opt/local/share/java/activemq/lib. Some are also provided by ports,
> like commons-*. Should we do something about that? I was pretty
> troubled by the duplication, but they *are* included in the binary
> dist, and the activemq folks told me they were worried about version
> mismatches with already-installed libraries.
> Note that some other ports (I think maven is one?) also wind up
> installing some of the same libraries so there is a danger we'll wind
> up with a bunch of copies.
Well, I would keep those jars there and not let any other packages use their
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