[MacPorts] #36754: new version of pb2make

steve jenkin stevej098 at gmail.com
Mon Nov 12 18:17:07 PST 2012


MacPorts wrote on 12/11/12 10:11 PM:
> #36754: new version of pb2make
> --------------------------+--------------------------------
>   Reporter:  stevej098@…  |      Owner:  macports-tickets@…
>       Type:  update       |     Status:  new
>   Priority:  Normal       |  Milestone:
>  Component:  ports        |    Version:  2.1.2
> Resolution:               |   Keywords:
>       Port:  pb2make      |
> --------------------------+--------------------------------
>
> Comment (by jmr@…):
>
>  Nobody is Cc'd on this ticket, so nobody is notified when you post a
>  comment.
>
>  What Ryan was saying was that to update pb2make in MacPorts, the Portfile
>  needs to be modified. We're not in the business of "upstream" hosting. If
>  changes need to be made to the upstream sources, they can be applied with
>  patch files.
>

I'm outside your little club. I offered help and you're screwing me around.
I don't know and don't care about your rules and process.

I worked fixing a broken port - Not a minor bug, but a *catastrophic* fault:

 THERE IS NO PORT-FILE FOR IT.

When I attempted to download the port - no file was found...

This says two things to me:

 - you don't do auto/sanity checks on your ports
 - there's likely no maintainer.

When I wrote the ticket I uploaded a 'tar' file of full working source.
I have also asked for direction/help on creating a full PORTFILE. That's
been ignored.

The smart-arse initial reply I got was "We don't care about your file,
give us the diffs".

Says the responder didn't read the ticket and didn't try to download the
port.

Your notes on lodging a ticket might be great for those in your 'club',
but not for an outsider.
AND there isn't a short checklist on the "Create New Ticket" page.

I've got NO idea of the importance of the CC: instructions or the
implied need to identify others. HOW would I as an outsider know ANYONE
appropriate in your little club... I can't - that's your job to route
the ticket so that it gets worked on and progresses at a reasonable rate.

"Anyone else besides the ticket reporter and assignee who would like to
be kept involved in the development of the ticket."

I am especially unimpressed that you ONLY support "Wikiformatting".
You need a way to allow straight text input: so bozos like me can
cut-paste from a terminal window and IT JUST WORKS.

You are asking FAR, FAR too much of the uninitiated who are willing to
give you any help/feedback.

I don't have time to waste on your bureaucratic bullshit.

I've found the code, fixed it, added a test, provided you with a working
solution and asked how to make it into a full Portfile...

And you're slack-jawed, idiotic response is "You didn't CC the ticket to
anyone".

WELL, HOW WOULD I KNOW TO DO THAT?!?!?!?! YOU DON'T WRITE THAT ANYWHERE
IN PLAIN SIGHT.

Your system obviously works well enough for those in your club.
It DOESNT work for anyone outside it.
You've created a barrier-to-entry that purposefully excludes competent,
experienced people - who are interested in getting on with the job, not
stuffing around doing wikiformatting and attempting to jump through
arbitrary hoops.

Your system KNEW I was an outsider: I had to register.
A reasonableness test would've been: "lets route this ticket differently
for a newbie".

Not impressed at all with your operation.


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