Questions on dependencies

[Peter Danecek]

Blair,

Thanks for the quick reply. I would have another one: It is a python package. I have some dependencies, which actually are not needed for package itself but only for testing. Testing is non done by the port itself. So I would have not included these dependencies, i.e. `py-nose`, `py-pep8`, `py-mock`, but leave it to the user to install these if he wants to run the tests. Is this okay like this?

Thanks!
~petr




On Oct 31, 2013, at 20:08 , Blair Zajac <blair at orcaware.com> wrote:

> On 10/31/13 11:54 AM, Peter Danecek wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm somewhat puzzled with the dependencies of some ports, and I realise the I lack some basic understanding.
>> 
>> (1) py-cython
>> 
>> From what I understand, build dependencies are required during the build, but can be removed later. Also they are not required for installation of prebuilt packages. But I have no clear idea if `py-cython` is a build dependency or a lib dependency. Looking through the existing ports, I find both.
> 
> We use Cython for an internal app but I've only seen it used as a build dependency.  It could be that other ports could switch.  If you're working on a new port, try making it a build dependency and switching to a lib if its needed at runtime.
> 
>> Is `py??-cython` required after the build?
>> 
>> (2) python package dependencies
>> 
>> Intuitively, I would say that most python package dependencies were lib dependencies. But they actually may install without, right? So is it okay to declare them lib dependencies or might it be better to make them runtime dependencies?
> 
> lib is a runtime dependency.
> 
>> 
>> (3) What exactly makes a lib a dependency in Macports?
>> 
>> I have the situation that some software depend on some library, its headers are included it is linked against it. Okay, here the situation is clear. But this lib may again depend on other libs, but my software does not directly reference/call these libraries. (It may need to link against it, not completely clear to me). Is this library a dependency for Macports or would I rely on the fact, that the library I am referencing directly, would have these other libraries as dependencies?
> 
> MacPorts can support transitive dependencies (that is, not listing the dependencies of your dependencies), but in practice we commonly list those dependencies if they are picked up at build time by port.  The reason to do this is to ensure the transitive dependency is not removed if the intermediate dependency is removed.
> 
> Regards,
> Blair
> 

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