Package delivery without XCode

Mark Anderson emer at
Mon May 25 11:56:06 PDT 2015

I agree. Sometimes even I use these methods instead of MacPorts, but I
usually try to get Macports to work as hard as I can. VLC is the one
offender that really doesn't want to build sometimes.

Mark E. Anderson <emer at>

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 8:04 PM, Ryan Schmidt <ryandesign at>

> On May 18, 2015, at 4:11 PM, Craig Treleaven wrote:
> > Right now, as I see it, MacPorts is pretty much geared to coders and
> sophisticated users (system/network administrators, etc).  There exists a
> wider group of folks who just want to run a specific application or two
> (say Darktable and Gimp, just for instance).  If such users could just
> install "Pallet-lite" and then be able to install any of a few dozen major
> open-source applications, that might be pretty popular.
> Most of the software in MacPorts is something you would use from the
> command line (e.g. ImageMagick), or something that is server software (e.g.
> Apache or PostgreSQL) or is a compiler or interpreter for a programming
> language (e.g. PHP or Node or GCC). Users of such software would hopefully
> be comfortable using MacPorts from the command line.
> There's no reason why users who aren't comfortable with the command line
> (the "wider group of folks" you mention) can't also use MacPorts. It should
> not be beyond anyone's capabilities to read and follow the MacPorts
> installation instructions, and to type a few commands into a terminal
> window to install the software they want. And those who prefer to use a
> MacPorts GUI have a few choices for that. Hopefully Pallet will be a viable
> option again sometime in the future when it's fixed up. I think there was
> even a recent proposal from someone to do that.
> Most GUI software designed for the Mac is already distributed in a
> ready-to-install way by those respective projects. Your two examples, Gimp
> and Darktable, already are, for example. For a lot of GUI software, e.g.
> VLC, it's simply a lot less bother to just use the binaries the developers
> provide rather than trying to use MacPorts to install it.
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