Framing the MacPorts discussion

Ben Greenfield ben at cogs.com
Thu May 20 13:20:56 UTC 2021


I can definitely donate the facilities if not the talent.

I have a symmetrical fiber connection and a static ip. I also have battery backup.
I’m in the final weeks of making the building legal and I haven’t configured the final network set-up for the building. I was going to set-up a vlan on my hp procurve switch.
I’m still shopping for a router to run OPNsense I think.

 I have been a mac sysadmin long time.

happy to accommodate.


Ben


> On May 19, 2021, at 11:01 AM, David Gilman <davidgilman1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Three distributed machines is a great goal, I agree with you, but maybe the right mindset here is to do the best with what we've got. If we have three or more trusted volunteers and the CI can support it let's do it, if we have fewer, we'll live with it.
> 
> On Wed, May 19, 2021, 8:57 AM Bjarne D Mathiesen <macintosh at mathiesen.info <mailto:macintosh at mathiesen.info>> wrote:
> 
> 
> Ryan Schmidt wrote:
> > I personally am not comfortable adding other build machines to our buildbot system that I do not control. When I control the machines, I know what is installed on them and that they are set up correctly. Having build machines located outside of my local network also poses additional challenges, as I've learned by having our Apple Silicon build machine outside of my network, challenges which I would prefer to minimize, not increase.
> > 
> > We currently use one build machine per OS version / arch, and have the hardware needed to do that. Adding more hardware such that we have more than one build machine per OS version / arch is not something our buildbot system was ever designed to accommodate, and would introduce problems.
> 
> So we are more-or-less single-point-of-failure regarding the buildbots
> !? Personally, I'ld deem it advisable to have at least 3 complete
> systems geographically dispersed.
> 
> > 
> > Using Linux and commodity hardware is not applicable because it the macOS EULA only permits running macOS on Apple hardware, as we currently do.
> 
> So it's not the proposed software stack that's the problem, but the
> hardware stack. Then how about an old 2010/12 MacPro with all the bells
> and whistles ? I've been able to boot a 2010 MacPro w/ 256GB RAM under
> Ubuntu without any problems.
> 
> -- 
> Bjarne D Mathiesen
> Korsør ; Danmark ; Europa
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> denne besked er skrevet i et totalt M$-frit miljø
> OpenCore + macOS 10.15.7 Catalina
> MacPro 2010 ; 2 x 3,46 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon ; 256 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 ECC
> ATI Radeon RX 590 8 GB

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