posguy99 at gmail.com
Sat Jun 11 21:11:16 UTC 2022
But that’s not what HE said. He disagreed with you.
For myself, I don’t need reasons not to use Homebrew. I’d need reasons TO use Homebrew.
MacPorts does what I want in the way that I want it. What else does it need to do?
posguy99 at gmail.com
On Sat, Jun 11, 2022, at 1:53 PM, Michele Venturi wrote:
> That's what I said, no coherence or coordination.
> So what are your reasons to not use HomeBrew?
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2022, 22:40 Jim DeLaHunt <list+macports-dev at jdlh.com <mailto:list%2Bmacports-dev at jdlh.com>> wrote:
>> Hello, Jordan:
>> Welcome (back to) MacPorts!
>> I am nobody official with the project. I just try to make contributions
>> to a few ports and documentation pages where I can. But in this project,
>> lots of people contribute, each in their own way.
>> On 2022-06-11 07:07, Jordan via macports-dev wrote:
>> > Hi friends,
>> > First of all thank you for your work! I use MacPorts exclusively for a
>> > few different reasons and am looking to contribute to the project....
>> I for one would be glad to have your contributions.
>> > There is one aspect of MacPorts that has me a little down in the dumps
>> > and that's is its _apparent_ (but likely not true) neglected state. I
>> > think it's perhaps under maintained currently due to a lack of
>> > people-power? I say so because I'd love to see more people using
>> > MacPorts so I wonder if there's any "modernisation" (for lack of a
>> > better word) to be had here? ... so perhaps some usage compared to
>> > things like Homebrew can be gained back since I'd love to see this
>> > project used more.
>> I think it is not fair to say MacPorts overall is in a neglected state.
>> Its core purpose is to help people compile a wide range of freely
>> available software on the macOS platform. As part of that it helps
>> gather the related software needed to make the requested software work.
>> I think that this aspect of MacPorts works very well. It gets a lot of
>> care and attention. There is a lot of activity. For instance, I just
>> moved onto an M1 Mac, and I see a lot of support for compiling software
>> with the M1 CPU's architecture. That is the opposite of neglect.
>> Now, certain aspects of the project are neglected. You mention the
>> timeline on Trac. That's a page of documentation.
>> When you say "modernisation", I think you mean, changes to how MacPorts
>> work to make it easier or better for some audience. I think that is best
>> approached as a collection of small projects, each with a specific
>> understanding of a problem, and its own goal for an improvement. One way
>> to proceed is to start a macPorts-dev thread for each of these ideas
>> (and each with a different Subject: line, please).
>> You mention believing that `sudo` probably scares new users. Maybe so,
>> maybe not. A first step is to gather some evidence whether this is true.
>> A next step is to figure out why the port tool requires use of `sudo`. A
>> third step is to figure out what alternative way the port tool could
>> work which does not require `sudo`. For my part, use of `sudo` is no
>> problem at all. MacPorts is a command-line tool for system maintenance.
>> I am used to system maintenance tools requiring administrator passwords.
>> `sudo` is a command-line way of requiring a password.
>> I will also say that competing with Homebrew about which project has
>> more users is not very interesting to me. Homebrew works well for some
>> people. MacPorts works well for some people. I'm interested in helping
>> MacPorts be the best MacPorts it can be. If Homebrew ends up with more
>> users, that is no big deal to me.
>> > Also, as a tacked-on issue I am working on...
>> I suggest you start a separate email thread for each issue. If you try
>> to discuss deleting files on uninstall as part of a thread with the
>> Subject: of "MacPorts status", which was originally about your offer to
>> help, I suspect you will lose a lot of readers.
>> Anyhow, I look forward to seeing you in the email list, and in the trac
>> tickets, and in the Pull Requests! Glad to have your help.
>> Best regards,
>> —-Jim "just another MacPorts user/contributor" DeLaHunt
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