Time to say goodbye to Tiger?

[Gagan Sidhu]

where i’m from, you treat others the way they treat you.

instead of admitting when he is wrong, he attacks others, puts words in their mouth and says they’re at fault.

your response is not encouraging at all. it feels like you are condoning the antagonistic behaviour of the person you’re defending because he contributes. you make no mention of the other problems that others have had with him.

why aren’t you addressing his attitude problem? why aren’t you at-all acknowledging ken’s conduct is geared in a way to reinforce his flawed belief system?

how many times did he attack me over the nodejs patches? and how many times did i politely point out the errors in his criticism, which he did not answer? he then uses such interactions in other threads to say i was previously wrong (in spite of my response) as a way to further reinforce his belief system.

i don’t appreciate people who can’t admit when they have made an error, since this behaviour is detrimental to the ethos of a project like this.

i am aware no one is perfect. ‘flawless’ is the complement of humanity, but ken engages in toxic conduct that he should try to work on so others aren’t chased off.

and i’m sure you’re aware that threatening to ban someone from a mailing list because they’re raising real points, isn’t a good look. i’m not insulting ken any more than he has (many, many) others over the past 20 years.

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> On Jan 26, 2025, at 5:50 PM, Ryan Carsten Schmidt <ryandesign at macports.org> wrote:
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> On Jan 26, 2025, at 18:25, Gagan Sidhu wrote:
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>> you make this project suck. i’ve heard it from others too.
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>> to be honest, i wonder how many contributors this project has lost over the past decade because of his uncivilised behaviour.
> 
> Gagan, I'm pretty close to permanently banning you from this project. Ken is a valued contributor and doesn't deserve your insults. MacPorts is a community where people volunteer their time to make things better for other Mac users, ostensibly because they enjoy doing so. If the community devolves into personal attacks, that enjoyment evaporates, contributors disappear, and the project dies. 
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> Maybe we should all take a couple days off from this thread to cool down and if there's anything to be said when we return let's keep it civil and fact-based. One fact I can share is that a disproportionately high number of tickets in recent months or maybe years have been filed by users of the oldest Mac OS X versions MacPorts works on and while some of those issues are general and need general fixes, many are specific to those old systems and responding to such tickets takes time that could have been spent fixing problems that affect a much larger portion of the MacPorts-using population. This may be one reason why Josh suggested dropping Tiger support.