an upgrade is available for Growl. For some reason I cant log into Trac to make a ticket. William Davis frstanATbellsouthDOTnet Mac OS X.5.2 Darwin 9.2.2 Xquartz 2.2.0 - (xorg-server 1.3.0-apple13) Mac Mini Intel Duo @ 1.86 GHz Mundus vult decepi, ego non