xorg-libxkbui installation problem / general X11 question

[Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf]

Hi Ryan,

at first thank you very much for your quick, helpful, very friendly  
answers. You even picked up the mail I canceled after realizing that  
the attachment was to large.


Am 25.09.2009 um 18:33 schrieb Ryan Schmidt:

> Hi Lars,
>
>
> On Sep 25, 2009, at 08:22, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote:
>
>> when doing an 'sudo port -v upgrade outdated' I got a failure for  
>> xorg-libxkbui which I have attached:
>>
>> <macports xorg-libxkbui install failure.txt>
>>
>> my environment (a PowerBook G4):
>>
>> Lars-Sonchocky-Helldorfs-Computer:~ lars$ uname -a
>> Darwin Lars-Sonchocky-Helldorfs-Computer.local 8.11.0 Darwin  
>> Kernel Version 8.11.0: Wed Oct 10 18:26:00 PDT 2007;  
>> root:xnu-792.24.17~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc
>> Lars-Sonchocky-Helldorfs-Computer:~ lars$ port version
>> Version: 1.8.0
>
> Thanks for letting us know. xorg-libxkbui was missing a dependency  
> on xorg-libXt, which I have now added (in r58301). Please wait 30  
> minutes from the time of this message, then "sudo port sync" and  
> try again.

that worked like a charm. All the X11 stuff (besides several fonts)  
currently installed on this machine is:

   quartz-wm @1.0.3_1 (active)
   xauth @1.0.4_0 (active)
   Xft2 @2.1.7_0
   Xft2 @2.1.13_0
   Xft2 @2.1.13_2 (active)
   xinit @1.1.1_5 (active)
   xmlcatmgr @2.2_1 (active)
   xorg-applewmproto @1.4.1_0 (active)
   xorg-bigreqsproto @1.1.0_0 (active)
   xorg-damageproto @1.2.0_0 (active)
   xorg-dri2proto @2.1_0 (active)
   xorg-encodings @1.0.2_0 (active)
   xorg-evieproto @1.1.0_0 (active)
   xorg-fixesproto @4.1_0 (active)
   xorg-font-util @1.0.2_0 (active)
   xorg-fontcacheproto @0.1.2_0 (active)
   xorg-fonts @20090102_1 (active)
   xorg-fontsproto @2.1.0_0 (active)
   xorg-glproto @1.4.10_0 (active)
   xorg-inputproto @1.5.1_0 (active)
   xorg-kbproto @1.0.3_0 (active)
   xorg-libAppleWM @1.4.0_0 (active)
   xorg-libfontenc @1.0.5_0 (active)
   xorg-libice @1.0.6_0 (active)
   xorg-libsm @1.1.1_0 (active)
   xorg-libX11 @1.2.2_0 (active)
   xorg-libXau @1.0.5_0 (active)
   xorg-libXdmcp @1.0.2_1
   xorg-libXdmcp @1.0.3_0 (active)
   xorg-libXext @1.0.99.4_1 (active)
   xorg-libXfixes @4.0.3_1 (active)
   xorg-libXfont @1.4.0_2 (active)
   xorg-libXfontcache @1.0.4_1 (active)
   xorg-libXi @1.2.1_1 (active)
   xorg-libXinerama @1.0.99.1_0 (active)
   xorg-libxkbfile @1.0.5_1 (active)
   xorg-libxkbui @1.0.2_0 (active)
   xorg-libXmu @1.0.5_0 (active)
   xorg-libXp @1.0.0_3 (active)
   xorg-libXScrnSaver @1.2.0_0 (active)
   xorg-libXt @1.0.6_0 (active)
   xorg-libXxf86misc @1.0.1_2 (active)
   xorg-printproto @1.0.4_0 (active)
   xorg-randrproto @1.3.0_0 (active)
   xorg-recordproto @1.13.99.1_0 (active)
   xorg-renderproto @0.9.3_0
   xorg-renderproto @0.11_0 (active)
   xorg-resourceproto @1.1.0_0 (active)
   xorg-scrnsaverproto @1.2.0_0 (active)
   xorg-server @1.5.3-apple15_0+macosx (active)
   xorg-trapproto @3.4.3_0 (active)
   xorg-util-macros @1.3.0_0 (active)
   xorg-videoproto @2.3.0_0 (active)
   xorg-xcmiscproto @1.2.0_0 (active)
   xorg-xextproto @7.1.1_0 (active)
   xorg-xf86bigfontproto @1.2.0_0 (active)
   xorg-xf86miscproto @0.9.2_0 (active)
   xorg-xineramaproto @1.1.99.1_0 (active)
   xorg-xproto @7.0.14_1
   xorg-xproto @7.0.15_0
   xorg-xproto @7.0.16_0 (active)
   xorg-xtrans @1.2.4_0 (active)
   xrdb @1.0.5_1 (active)
   xrender @0.9.0_0+darwin_8
   xrender @0.9.4_4+macosx
   xrender @0.9.4_6 (active)
   xset @1.1.0_0 (active)


>
>
>> What makes me wonder here is why macports tries to install X11/ 
>> Xorg at all, given I already have installed X11.app from Apple. Is  
>> this the case because the X11.app from Apple is to old (I got  
>> version 1.1.3) or because it is incompatible or not detected? I'd  
>> rather use Apple's X11.app (because it works and I have no  
>> problems installing it) but if this is not sufficient please let  
>> me know.
>
> MacPorts installs its own X11 libraries for the same reason it  
> installs its own version of every other library: to avoid bugs in  
> older versions included with Mac OS X, and to provide a consistent  
> experience for MacPorts users across all versions of Mac OS X.
>
> http://trac.macports.org/wiki/FAQ#ownlibs
>
> X11 had previously been an exception to this rule because X11 in  
> MacPorts had not been maintained and did not work. But now a lot of  
> effort has been put in to make X11 in MacPorts work. For a time, we  
> allowed users the option of using either the MacPorts X11 or the  
> system's X11, but this caused a large number of problems so this  
> option was removed.
>
> You can continue to use Apple's X11.app in /Applications/Utilities  
> to run software you install using MacPorts. However, the version of  
> X11.app on Tiger is very old and contains many bugs which have  
> since been fixed. So especially for Tiger, I recommend you install  
> the ports xorg-server and quartz-wm and use X11.app in / 
> Applications/MacPorts instead.
>
> Note also that the X11 system Apple shipped in Tiger and earlier is  
> based on XFree86 while the X11 system Apple ships in Leopard and  
> later, and the one we now use in MacPorts, is based on X.Org.  
> That's another reason to prefer the MacPorts version on Tiger -- to  
> upgrade you to the same X11 the rest of the Mac world is using.
>

Thanks for the exhaustive explanation. Now I somewhat can "connect  
the dots".

>

regards,

	Lars