Messed up Perl

Bradley Giesbrecht brad at
Mon Oct 4 22:18:31 PDT 2010

Zero sarcasm intended.

On Oct 4, 2010, at 9:32 PM, Hal Vaughan wrote:

> On Oct 5, 2010, at 12:17 AM, Bradley Giesbrecht wrote:
>> ...
>> Hal, so many words for a small issue. Decisions were made with the  
>> intent of serving the most people the way they expected to be  
>> served. There are but a handful of people trying to serve you here.  
>> Either contribute or not, up to you, but please just fix your PATH  
>> the way you like and let us move on.
> 1) Google the story on Winston Churchill and how long it'd take him  
> to prep a 2 hour speech vs. a 5 minute speech.  You want it short?   
> Then give me 2-3 days to edit it.
> 2) I have fixed it, but notice that many points were brought up  
> AFTER I had dealt with it and people have brought up issues  
> connected with it.

This is so common with Perl. It used to be me complaining. Good people  
with good intentions have spent what volunteer time they have  
available to come up with what is an acceptable perl solution for most  
people. Improvements are welcome, preferably with code.

> 3) A list like this is for dealing with issues on a particular  
> software and often when dealing with one particular issue, it brings  
> up bigger issues.  Note that most of the discussion has been between  
> other people, so this topic is of concern to more people than just  
> to me.
> 4) I have, as I pointed out, contributed to FOSS projects a number  
> of times.  (Also in time, money, and helping users, which I didn't  
> include.)  But, in all honesty, it's the STFU comments like this one  
> that remind me why, even though I love the concept of FOSS, I've  
> been moving away from it more and more and dealing with commercial  
> programs where developers don't start adopting a "blame the user"  
> attitude when a problem comes up.  Daniel was suggesting I get  
> involved by filing bug reports.  It's responses like yours that are  
> why I avoid that now days and have had less and less to do with FOSS.

Every distribution I have used has it's Perl woes. You state "I don't  
mind submitting bug reports, but I do want to know, openly and  
honestly, how they're handled.". Why not just file a bug. I don't know  
how to tell you how your bug report will be handled. Seeing a bug  
report would help answer how it will be handled. There are plenty of  
bugs already for us (you included) to work on. If you don't see how  
and why the MacPorts contributers produced the perl you don't like I  
understand. Please file a ticket explaining how MacPorts perl could be  
done better. Keep in mind, this list thread will fade and receive zero  
attention very soon. A bug report has legs.

Thank you for your interest in improving MacPorts in general and  
MacPorts Perl specifically.

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