usage numbers for macports vs. homebrew?

[Landon Fuller]

They seemed to acquire a lot of traction on the basis of marketing; specifically:
	- Truthiness (an assortment of “advantages” that turned out not to be, claims that ignored technical accuracy and nuance, and claims quite simply rooted in ignorance), and
	- Outright negative advertising (“MacPorts driving you to drink?”)

It’s a new brand of open-source that I don’t really recognize and can’t say I like; it detracts from the community’s ability to collaborate productivity, and undermines the objective, rational honesty that should be at the core of any engineering endeavor.

I don’t really know how to raise the level of discourse; it’s far more expensive to counter to truthiness and negativity than it is to generate it in the first place. Nowadays, people who have never even used MacPorts will repeat verbatim the negative advertising propagated by Homebrew. 

I find the whole thing distasteful.

-landonf

On Mar 18, 2014, at 8:25 AM, Jeremy Lavergne <jeremy at lavergne.gotdns.org> wrote:

> Marketing. Ease of use.
> 
> Davor Cubranic <cubranic at stat.ubc.ca> wrote:
>> On Mar 12, 2014, at 2:12 PM, Art McGee <amcgee at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> The problem is that the presentation of the case for supporting
>> MacPorts was confusing and unconvincing, so usage statistics are not
>> going to help in that matter.
>> 
>> I’ve been wondering why Homebrew has such huge momentum and mindshare
>> these days. In random places on the web I’ve seen people imply that
>> it’s better/more reliable than Macports. (The only concrete example was
>> terribly outdated, about TexLive version about four years ago.) 
>> 
>> I’ve given Homebrew a quick try in a VM and it doesn’t seem that
>> different in functionality. (Except that I do wish we had something
>> like Homebrew-cask.) So, other than the coolness factor (which I guess
>> comes partly from being “the new thing”, and partly from using Github
>> for all development and distribution), what else is there? Try to keep
>> it factual and based on your own experiences using/administering both,
>> please.
>> 
>> Davor
>> 
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