Volunteer for a workshop on "setting up your own buildbot/buildslave"? (Was: Experiences with El Capitan)

[Ulrich Wienands]

There are three rather critical pieces of software still being kept alive for PPC:

Tenfourfox: http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ <http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/>  (Firefox)

Tenfourbird: http://tenfourbird.osdn.jp/ <http://tenfourbird.osdn.jp/> (Thunderbird)

LibreOffice: http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/manulix/other/libreoffice/ <http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/manulix/other/libreoffice/> (LibreOffice 5.1 alpha, needs OS X10.5 Leo)

Fortunately a number of Macports packages are (still) working on PPC, notably the cli stuff tende to last longer (gcc 4.6 being essential for me). And there is still a reasonably current version of Emacs. 

The point being that PPC Macs are still useful machines that should not be condemned to the landfill…

Uli

> On Nov 12, 2015, at 3:31 PM, Michael David Crawford <mdcrawford at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The PowerPC/Tiger backport of FireFox that I installed on Mom's G4 is
> called "TenFourFox".  I think there's also a "TenThreeFox".
> 
> There are quite a few Classic programs that are actively maintained.
> 
> From time to time I get email from a user of Working Software's
> products, none of which ever ran on OS X, to ask me if I could
> re-release them.  I expect I could earn quite a good income doing
> nothing other than selling QuickLetter, which was written largely in
> 68k assembly code and never even ported to PowerPC.
> 
> (It was built on the same CoreEdit as MacWrite was.)
> Michael David Crawford, Baritone
> mdcrawford at gmail.com
> 
>      One Must Not Trifle With Wizards For It Makes Us Soggy And Hard To Light.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Ryan Schmidt <ryandesign at macports.org> wrote:
>> On Nov 12, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Michael David Crawford wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 5:43 AM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 12, 2015, at 6:55 AM, Michael David Crawford wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> There have been plenty of times that the only Mac available to me for
>>>>> development has been my mother's Tiger G4 iMac.  I was at least able
>>>>> to install a PowerPC backport of Firefox.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What was most upsetting to me when I used it was that I often had to
>>>>> build my own tools from source, because the powerpc binaries had been
>>>>> withdrawn.
>>>> 
>>>> Not sure if you were talking about MacPorts or other projects, but MacPorts has never offered PowerPC binaries. We started offering binaries with OS X 10.6, for x86_64 only.
>>> 
>>> Not MacPorts specifically but that has been my experience with
>>> numerous software packages.
>> 
>> In many cases, the software is no longer compatible with the older versions of OS X required for PowerPC machines, so they couldn't provide a binary if they wanted to because it won't compile anymore. Though there probably are other projects that would still work on PowerPC but binaries aren't provided because few people use PowerPC machines anymore. In any case, it's a matter you would have to take up with the particular project in question.
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