Macports fails to build in macOS 10.12 Sierra

Mark Anderson emer at
Mon Jun 20 20:05:26 PDT 2016

Thanks a bunch for the info. I'll talk to my WWDR - this bit has always
confused me. I wish I had thought of it at WWDC, we had a meeting last
week. I usually just talk to people in the dev program anyway, but I'd like
to know what help I can give and how publicly.

Mark E. Anderson <emer at>

On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 11:52 PM, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia <
jeremyhu at> wrote:

> > On Jun 19, 2016, at 17:15, Mark Anderson <emer at> wrote:
> >
> > Jeremy, I'm still interested in a answer as to what is covered by this:
> >
> > Further, Apple agrees that You will not be bound by the foregoing
> confidentiality terms with regard to technical information about
> pre-release Apple Software and services disclosed by Apple at WWDC (Apple’s
> Worldwide Developers Conference), except that You may not post screenshots,
> write public reviews or redistribute any pre-release Apple Software or
> services.
> >
> > Genuinely, not sarcastically or politically. I have no interest in
> losing my developer program membership. What about Sierra and iOS 10 can we
> talk about based on this clause? I had thought it was stuff like this, but
> I appear to have been mistaken.
> Hey Mark,
> My personal and unaffiliated (Apple hat is off) strict interpretation of
> this is that you can discuss anything that was made publicly available by
> Apple through public announcements but nothing more.  In the past, these
> restrictions were much tighter, but they have loosened up quite a bit over
> the past few years alongside the public betas.  I suggest you reach out to
> Apple WWDR for clarification on the terms if you are uncertain (and I would
> be extremely happy to be wrong if they state otherwise), but it's always
> good to be on the safe side.  As someone else mentioned on the thread,
> Apple did not disclose MacPorts interoperability with Sierra, so a strict
> interpretation of the agreement would suggest keeping a lid on it with
> respect to MacPorts and filing radars at for
> any compatibility issue you run into (and I'd welcome getting pinged about
> such issues, so I can look into them personally).
> Also note that in the past, such restrictions loosened once the first
> public beta was made available, so it's possible that such open discussion
> will be ok once that happens.
> --Jeremy
> >
> > —Mark
> > _______________________
> > Mark E. Anderson <emer at>
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Jeremy Sequoia <jeremyhu at>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone...
> >
> > > On Jun 19, 2016, at 13:55, Bachsau <web at> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> Am 19.06.2016 um 05:24 schrieb Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia <
> jeremyhu at>:
> > >>
> > >> As a reminder, macOS 10.12 Sierra has only been released as a
> developer preview to developers and is covered by an NDA.
> > >
> > > Ever heard of something called "free speech"? The snowden leaks were
> also covered by an NDA an we know what it led to.
> >
> > I suggest you consult with a lawyer to learn a bit about those terms,
> and they can explain to you that NDAs are not a violation of one's first
> amendment rights.
> >
> > Because of his well informed choice, Snowden basically lost his freedom
> of movement and is confined to "living on the Internet" (in Russia).  While
> the same won't happen here and your analogy is quite laughable, it is
> important for developers to remember the agreements that they have signed
> and honor their word if they expect others to trust them in the future.
> Most violations (like this) are simply accidental and developers for the
> most part want to honor the agreement and appreciate such clarifications
> and reminders.  Egregious and intentional violations of the NDA have in the
> past resulted in termination of the developer relationship with Apple which
> can be quite damaging to a developer's livelihood.  I'm just trying to help
> protect the developers that want to honor their word.
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