port diagnose and xcode

[Chris Jones]

On 11/03/2022 8:02 am, Michele Venturi wrote:
> What is wrong is that a simple package manager
> requires an entire multigigabyte professional IDE;
> I have even taken the time to talk to them about it
> and file a bug about it,but they clearly don't care...
> It's surely not a new issue,it's like that by design...


MacPorts is not (just) 'a simple package manager'. Yes, it performs this 
function, but first and foremost (and long before we even had binary 
tarballs to distribute as a 'package mnager') it is a system for 
building packages and their dependencies. To build something you require 
a compiler. Many ports will build fine with just the Apple CLT package, 
but some indeed require the full Xcode installation in order to be built 
(and Xcode also is not just an IDE, but is also a command line build 
system).

So yes, if you want to put it in those terms requiring Xcode/CLT is 'by 
design'.

> 
> Il ven 11 mar 2022, 01:40 James Secan <james.secan at gmail.com 
> <mailto:james.secan at gmail.com>> ha scritto:
> 
>     In working my way through my recent “phantom ports” issue I ran the
>     command “port diagnose” and was more than a bit surprised by the
>     output line:
> 
>     Error: currently installed version of Xcode, none, is not supported
>     by MacPorts.
> 
>     followed by a list of the version supported under my version of
>     macOS (El Capitan, in this case).  Where is port getting this
>     information?  I have Xcode 8.2.0 installed, and none of my attempts
>     to install ports have run into any trouble related to Xcode not
>     being installed.  I ran "pkgutil -v
>     --pkg-info=com.apple.pkg.CLTools_Executables” which shows that I
>     have 8.2.0 installed, and the appropriate MacOSX.sdk files are in
>     /Library/Developer/CommandLineTools/SDKs.  I also tried this on my
>     test Catalina system, with the same result.
> 
>     Is something wrong with my ports setup?
> 
>     Jim
>     3222 NE 89th St
>     Seattle, WA 98115
>     (206) 430-0109
> 
>      > On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:34 AM, Ryan Schmidt
>     <ryandesign at macports.org <mailto:ryandesign at macports.org>> wrote:
>      >
>      > On Mar 9, 2022, at 17:13, James Secan wrote:
>      >>
>      >> when I run "port upgrade installed -u outdated”
>      >
>      > This command doesn't make a great deal of sense. You're asking
>     MacPorts to upgrade the "installed" ports (which includes those
>     those that are outdated and those that aren't) and also the
>     "outdated" ports (those that are outdated). It would be simpler and
>     more efficient to just run "sudo port -u upgrade outdated".
>     Single-dash/single-letter flags like "-u" go after "port" and before
>     the action (the action in this case being "upgrade").
>      >
>      > For completeness, "-u" means "uninstall inactive ports"; if you
>     want to keep inactive ports, for example as a safeguard so that you
>     could return to them in case something is wrong with the new
>     version, then don't use "-u". When you eventually run "sudo port
>     reclaim", that will get rid of the inactive versions.
>      >
>      > MacPorts reminds to run "sudo port reclaim" if you have not done
>     so in a few weeks, unless you have configured MacPorts not to remind
>     you.
>