<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Mojca,<div><br></div><div>Slow your horses down a bit!</div><div><br></div><div>First I have said that I am using MacTeX, not macports! So, I am not </div><div>aware how far the macport port of TeXLive 2011 is!</div><div><br></div><div>Second I mentioned that their are caveats to using macports. </div><div>This is especially true of TeXLive and the way macports works.</div><div><br></div><div>As mentioned by Paulo in a later message:</div><div><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: monospace; ">Mojca spotted the problem (thanks!): it seems that I had an older version of "texlive-lang-cjk" installed that was not being reported by "port" as such (I had some trouble when moving to Lion and is possible that I messed up something). Anyway, after chasing and deleting all "texmf*" and "texlive*" folders and files on "/opt/local", I was able to successfully install the 2011 version of TexLive. Thanks you all for the great support.<br></span></blockquote><div><br></div>Thirdly, I have been using MacTeX for several years, now and never had TL break</div><div>after an update! </div><div><br></div><div>Fourth, I never addressed the maintainer to abandon the port, just a user wanting to have</div><div>a working TL distribution. </div><div><br></div><div>Fifth, I have stated that the macport maintainers/volunteers are doing a great job and </div><div>getting better. </div><div><br></div><div>If macports has rewritten the XeTeX engine to run 64-bit then it would be nice if they</div><div>shared their code with the TL and MacTeX community, so that all may benefit from it as</div><div>this is the only piece of code that is not 64-bit.</div><div><br></div><div>Mojca you may not like my opinions, but please refrain from putting "words in my mouth"</div><div>that I did not say nor intend.</div><div><br></div><div>regards</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Keith.</div><div><br><div><div>Am 10.08.2011 um 11:48 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 11:06, Keith J. Schultz <<a href="mailto:keithjschultz@web.de">keithjschultz@web.de</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Hi Dan,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">All I was trying to point out is that what ever source macports is distributing<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">that they are not using the the final realease<br></blockquote><br>You are wrong. MacPorts is using the final release. The same one as<br>MacTeX is using (except that MacTeX can update packages and break<br>things since TL has been tested at least to some extent, while<br>day-to-day updates are not).<br><br><blockquote type="cite">As I suggested switch to the MacTex Distribution.<br></blockquote>...<br><blockquote type="cite">If you can not wait do not complain, switch to MacTeX. Like I said those porting<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">are volunteers and try to do their best. Yet, they need TIME.<br></blockquote><br>Are you asking the maintainer of texlive port for MacPorts to abandon<br>development of the port and switch to MacTeX, leaving tetex in<br>MacPorts instead??????<br><br><br><br>Please keep the following in mind:<br><br>- MacPorts has never in history been so fast in porting the latest<br>version of TeX Live. Compare that with Debian or Ubuntu which still<br>ships TeX Live 2009. Please give me a list of Linux distributions that<br>already ship TL 2011.<br><br>- MacTeX doesn't work on Tiger. If MacPorts still works on Tiger and<br>Panther (I think it does), so do its TeX Live packages in contrast to<br>MacTeX. MacPorts even ship a 64-bit version of XeTeX.<br><br>- You can claim that any program XYZ is easier to use if one simply<br>downloads dmg instead of installing it via MacPorts. This list is not<br>meant for discussion whether Octave.app is better than octave port in<br>MacPorts and that octave port should be removed since it is useless.<br>It is about making ports in MacPorts better. I still installed Qt from<br>Nokia's page, but this is not to say that qt port in MacPorts is<br>useless (even if broken at the moment).<br><br>- Not every user cares what version of TeX he or she uses. Those are<br>free to use MacPorts's TeX. 99% of TeX users don't care about updates.<br>They just want to compile their 10-years-old articles.<br><br>- TeX Live updates from upstream repositories with<br>the-latest-and-the-greatest package versions can easily break your TeX<br>documents. Not everyone wants to live on bleeding edge.<br><br>Mojca<br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>