Creating a new port

Tue Oct 7 08:16:01 PDT 2008

I had a look at some ruby ports and all this seems to be workable  
quite easily. I am actually testing a clean reinstall
using macports into /Applications/zena.app/opt (just a test to see if  
producing a full binary could be an option). This
will give me the exact dependencies I need and let me test the setup  
before writing a port for zena.

Thanks for your help and ... I'll be back soon !

Gaspard

On 7 oct. 08, at 17:09, C. Florian Ebeling wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Gaspard Bucher <gaspard at teti.ch>  
> wrote:
>>
>> On 7 oct. 08, at 16:00, C. Florian Ebeling wrote:
>>
>>>> I would like to create a port to ease installation of zena (a  
>>>> ruby on
>>>> rails based CMS, http://zenadmin.org). The idea is to
>>>>
>>>> 1. write the dependencies in a Portfile
>>>>
>>>> build-essential apache2 mysql-server libmagick9-dev gs-gpl libssl- 
>>>> dev
>>>> gettext libgettext-ruby libreadline5 libreadline5-dev zlib1g-dev
>>>> libncurses5 libncurses5-dev temcap-compat unzip liburi-perl jpeg  
>>>> tiff
>>>> ruby rb-rubygems
>>>>
>>>> 2. trigger a script to install ruby gems, some with specified  
>>>> versions
>>>>
>>>> gem install gettext --version 1.90.0
>>>> gem install RedCloth --version 3.0.4
>>>> gem install rake mongrel mongrel_cluster rmagick tzinfo RedCloth
>>>> syntax mongrel_upload_progress uuidtools daemons ruby-debug
>>>> gem install --source http://www.loonsoft.com/recaptcha/pkg/  
>>>> recaptcha
>>>>
>>>> 3. find a way to fetch zena sources somewhere in /opt/... (idealy  
>>>> with
>>>> svn/git so it is easy to update the code)
>>>>
>>>> 4. install a script to start/stop/update zena
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is all this a really bad idea because there are other (simpler)  
>>>> ways
>>>> to achieve this ?
>>>
>>> all this is possible right now, with two exceptions:
>>> - you cannot specify a gem version, you just have to
>>> depend on the port-wrapped gem that is current with
>>> macports.
>>>
>>> - git is not supported for fetching, but svn is.
>>
>> svn would be fine
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> the gem version requirements could be a problem
>>> if they exist already and the maintainer is not willing
>>> to switch to these versions. but i guess you want rather
>>> new versions, and he should usually upgrade if you
>>> ask, maybe even with a ticket + patch.
>>
>> Actually, no, I'm stuck with old ones due to a big redesign in  
>> RedCloth 4.
>> To avoid this issue, I could include the code from
>> these versions into the application's vendor directory (as it is  
>> done with
>> rails). So that's not a problem.
>>
>>>
>>> if the gem does not exist already, then you can just add
>>> that as well and become maintainer. then you have
>>> control over the version included in mp.
>>
>> From the existing ports list, the following gems would need to be  
>> added to
>> macports:
>> mongrel_upload_progress
>> syntax
>> tzinfo
>> uuidtools
>> recaptcha
>>
>>>
>>> for starting and stopping there is support present in the
>>> form of startup items, see the mp guide.
>>>
>>> the whole scenario is not a bad idea at all, but rather
>>> pretty much the most common use case for mp :)
>>>
>>> to prepare the ruby ports you  want to use ruby port
>>> group functionalty. you can pretty much have a whole
>>> port file (or the interesting parts of it) covered by a single
>>> call to ruby.setup function.
>>
>> I'll have to dive into tcl for this (totally unknown language for  
>> me). I
>> also have to learn how ports src are organised.
>>
>> Before I jump deep in this, I have a first question about the  
>> rb-... ports.
>> Why isn't this covered with calls using "gem" ? Is this to have  
>> control over
>> which versions are included ? To make sure the sources are  
>> available during
>> install ?
>
> mp just wraps over gem in the case of a gem installation type.
>
>
>>
>> Anyway, thanks for your help, having a macports for zena would be  
>> really
>> great because I keep getting questions about installation issues  
>> and it's
>> not very interesting...
>>
>> I'd love to have a one line answer like:
>>
>> sudo port install zena
>
> i will see that i put together a section on ruby.setup. might be on
> the weekend though.
>
> otherwise you have always the option to put a port request into the
> issue tracker, but that does not garuantee you that it happens as
> soon, unless zena is popular with mp users/maintainers. and it depends
> on quit a few other new ports as well, which need to be added first.
>
> Florian
>
> ps. please use reply-all when responding to the list, mp-dev
> does not set reploy-to header, as some other lists do. dont
> question this policy, it is an emotional topic :)
>
>
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Gaspard
>>>
>>>
>>> unfortunately this call is not properly documented in the
>>> guide. i wanted to do this but i didn't have the time right
>>> now. you will rather have to look at other portfiles or
>>> read the source:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://trac.macports.org/browser/branches/release_1_6/base/src/port1.0/resources/group/ruby-1.0.tcl
>>>
>>>
>>> Florian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Florian Ebeling
>>> florian.ebeling at gmail.com
>>
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Florian Ebeling
> florian.ebeling at gmail.com