Packages Not [was Re: ambivalence about fortran (was Re: numpy & non-Apple gcc?)]

[Daniel J. Luke]

On Sep 20, 2010, at 5:48 PM, Jeremy Lavergne wrote:
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>> Huh?  There's no semantic quibbling there at all.  I simply said you did not have build success/failure logs there, which is what my original question was about.  You are the one changing the subject here, not me. :-)   I also believe, though it has nothing to do with logging, that there IS a very definite distinction between archives and packages right now in MacPorts, particularly given that archives are not doing anything with the metadata yet (c.f. above discussion with respect to extract vs perform).
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> The original topic was about time to build packages.
> My point was MacPorts can already provide pre-built binaries to people. Somehow, by using archive or package I've caused a mess.
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> Sorry my choices on words was obviously poor, but based on the original subject it should be clear that bantering about packages versus archives has nothing to do with it.

I think your wording was fine, Jordan is just operating from a very specific definition of package (one that MacPorts has danced around for basically forever).

I think it's reasonable to have people install MacPorts from the .dmg (and not need Xcode) for binary archives and the user experience will be a lot like using rpm/apt/yum/whatever.

Whenever automated builds or packaging come up Jordan has a lot to say. It would be a shame if it prevented anyone from working on something that is better than what we're currently doing (which is nothing). There's no reason why we can't continue to build on the archive stuff we have in 1.9 until it meets everyone's needs.

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