[121204] trunk/dports

Mihai Moldovan ionic at ionic.de
Sun Jun 22 20:26:09 PDT 2014


* On 23.06.2014 02:12 am, Michael Dickens wrote:
> That said, it's quite possible that I've messed up my xterm settings
> somehow, which is causing the locking (me, and David apparently).  I
> believe this has to do with how the xterm interprets the streamed
> characters (sort of like setting LANG="C" to get SED to work), but since
> it happens rarely with the ports I use regularly I've never really
> investigated.

Sarcasm by me aside, I'd really invite to you to try rxvt-unicode, if you're in
need of an X11-based terminal. xterm is quite old, not so well maintained and
lacks many features.

If you're adding an item for urxvt in the X11 "Applications" menu, it's just as
easily accessible as xterm. Not to mention faster and richer in features.

Or is there any specific reason why GNU radio needs xterm I've been missing?
(Certainly possible, I'm really just asking.)


> I don't see this as a critical issue with MacPorts.  I was more agreeing
> with David's comment that although using UTF-8, as Ryan wrote: "should
> not be a problem", it can be a problem for some users -- including some
> who are not average users; I hope I'm not considered just an average
> user! - MLD

No, you're not. I didn't mean to imply that. :)
If stuff is breaking with UTF-8, it's better to handle/fix the baseline issue
and be "future-proof", instead of limiting UTF-8 usage because of bugs. (And I'd
rather see UTF-8 a "current" technology, than a "future" one.)

I've even seen compilers and GNU tools spit out UTF-8 characters, like those
"smart quotes" Ryan mentioned.
xterm does have (maybe incomplete?) support for UTF-8, but it seems to be
optional and may have to be turned of specifically. In any case, software seeing
a UTF-8 locale has a "right" to make use of that, even if it means crashing xterm.

In spite of that, maybe MacPorts should ship an ${prefix}/etc/X11/Xresources
file enabling Unicode support by default? UTF-8 locales are the default on OS X
anyway.



Mihai


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