Fix Sierra Trac query

Ryan Schmidt ryandesign at
Sun Dec 24 19:56:08 UTC 2017

On Dec 24, 2017, at 06:30, Jan Stary wrote:

> On Sep 26 01:39:38, jonesc wrote:
>> You could just avoid the problem by using the numerical OS designation.
> Exactly. It's 10.13. Why call it something else?

Apple calls it both 10.13 and High Sierra.

>>> We already had this problem long ago with the Lion Problems page showing Mountain Lion tickets as well:
>>> But we never fixed the problem, instead opting to never create a Mountain Lion Problems page.
> LOL.
> On Sep 26 08:40:44, ryandesign wrote:
>>> Perhaps Chris is suggesting to just change the tag going forward.
>> I would find that more confusing.
> How is "10.13" confusing?
> How is it more confusing than "High Sierra"?

I meant that I would find it more confusing to use two different ways of tagging OS versions in the issue tracker, depending on the version of the OS. I would find it simpler to use a single way to tag all OS versions in the issue tracker.

>> I really didn't intend to start a big discussion here.
>> I just wanted to point out a small issue with one of our wiki pages
>> and to invite someone with interest in fixing the page to do so.
> The point of that page, if I get it, is to list problems
> specific to that vesion of the OS, and it doesn't,
> precisely because "sierra" matches "highsierra" (right?).
> So using these silly names is precisely the problem, no?
> On Sep 26 15:58:04, smithsp wrote:
>> If I go to "Apple symbol" -> "About this mac",
>> I get a version number, not a name.
> Exactly. Why would you use anything else to identify the OS version?

"About this Mac" shows both the marketing name and the version number.

> On Sep 27 15:58:12, jonesc wrote:
>>> Looks like Trac does not support the match operator we would need:
>> If thats the case I don't see what we can do (other that start to use a
>> numerical keyword instead of highsierra, which I agree we don't want to back
>> port to older systems, and having a mix is not ideal either).
> It's not ideal, but it's still a good thing to start using
> something that works as opposed to continue using something
> that apparently does not.
> On Sep 27 16:13:45, jonesc wrote:
>> As a test I tried adding highsierra as a keyword to
>> and indeed it disappeared from the Sierra list.
>> I then changed the keyword from highsierra to 10.13 ... and it also did not
>> work.
>> It appears the logic in the code has never worked for these sorts of
>> keywords. I just fixed this and now the ticket appears in both lists.
> This ticket uses both keywords
> but only appears on the HighSierra list.

Yup. That is because the query on the Sierra page says to find tickets having the keyword highsierra but not the keyword sierra. Which isn't really what we want.

> On the other hand,
> uses no keywords and appears on both lists.

Yup. That's because the queries look not only in the keywords field but also in the summary, and that ticket says "High Sierra" in the summary.

>> So one work around is to start to try and use 10.13 and 10.12 etc.,
>> instead of highsierra, sierra.
> Please.

As I'm sure I said before in this thread, we could do that, but I'm not thrilled about the massive amount of editing of existing tickets required to convert all the existing keywords, and of all the email notifications that will go out to everyone as a result, which some might start to view as spam...

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