GSoC 2019 [Buildbot ideas]

[Pierre Tardy]

>  I am slightly concerned about Vue's market share
compared to React

The market share is indeed different, but this is in a huge market.

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Pierre

On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 5:35 PM Mojca Miklavec <mojca at macports.org> wrote:

> Dear Pierre,
>
> On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 at 08:34, Pierre Tardy wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Vue and React are the two major JS frameworks in 2018/2019. React is
> still the major one, probably thanks to the fact that react-native is very
> useful for mobile. So learning react allows you to make both webapps and
> mobile apps (even if you cannot really share UI code between the two
> frameworks)
> >
> > For the web, I like Vue better, recommend it and use it for all my new
> web projects, because I think it is easier to use, and produce less complex
> code for simple projects.
> > I think react best practices are oriented more toward very large web
> apps, and using them for smaller apps is for me a waste of ressource.
> > React indeed only support one way binding, and forces people to use
> state store like redux, which is for me very hard to use right, and
> requires lots of boilerplate code.
> >
> > On the contrary, vue.js scales better and allows you to write clean and
> readable code for small components, thanks to its support for two way
> binding.
> > It is in my opinon easier for the beginner as its basic concepts are
> simple to comprehend, and harder to make it wrong.
> > Vue still supports state store with vuex, which you can use when your
> app is large enough to require it.
> >
> > So I think vue is the best compromise between ideas from angular and
> ideas from react.
>
> Thanks a lot for the very detailed and useful summary. I tried to
> google a bit, but I could not get it so clearly explained for the sake
> of our needs :)
>
> > This is good for a novice web developer to have experience in both,
> hence I asked Rajdeep to also consider vue.
> > I challenged him to adapt the boilerplate to vue, because I was
> impressed he was able to set up so quickly.
> > So I suggested a bit harder challenge to test how far we can go in the
> expectations. This is fine to struggle on a challenge, or else it is not a
> challenge :)
>
> Sure, I have nothing against good challenges :)
> I just wanted to fully understand the direction in which you wanted to
> head.
>
> > Finally, challenge aside, you may decide which framework you want to use
> in your project I don't want to force you :)
>
> Personally I don't have any strong preferences yet and would trust
> your judgement. As long as it's not something that needs to be
> replaced after four months as that framework just got out of fashion,
> I'm fine with it. I am slightly concerned about Vue's market share
> compared to React, but I still lack the expertise to judge any better.
> (Tcl is also a quite neat language, but it's market share is
> problematic to attract new contributors to the project.)
>
> I would like the project to add some elements specific to macports to
> our local configuration, but ideally as little as possible and the
> project would be done in a way that it would serve plenty of other
> buildbot users, not just us. In that case it makes sense to follow
> buildbot's preferences, not ours, even if we had any.
>
> Mojca
>
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