legacy-support and Wayland

Georges Martin jrjsmrtn at gmail.com
Tue Oct 15 12:01:34 UTC 2019


I’m no expert on Wayland but I found this discussion on a Darwin port a while back: https://mastodon.technology/@bugaevc/101603518023241841

G.

> Le 15 oct. 2019 à 13:31, Jack Howarth <howarth.at.macports at gmail.com> a écrit :
> 
> 
>     I asked Jeremy about potential Wayland support for macOS awhile back and his response was that it was pointless duplication as Xquartz already achieved the same goals.
>           Jack
> 
>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 4:40 AM Chris Jones <jonesc at hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> On 15/10/2019 9:20 am, René J. V. Bertin wrote:
>> > Chris Jones wrote:
>> > 
>> > Sorry, missed your reply.
>> > 
>> > I guess what I'm asking is: the legacy-support package/project must have come
>> > into existence because of an interest in running code that requires functions
>> > not present in all Mac OS versions - does that interest cover Wayland too?
>> 
>> I am not disputing the idea that adding support for Wayland to MacPorts 
>> would be a good idea. It would be. Just that legacy-support is not the 
>> place to add it. It is there to add as required to older OSes low level, 
>> small, system library methods added in newer OSes. e.g. clock_gettime 
>> that only exists in 10.12+. It is not the place to add an entirely new 
>> feature set such as Wayland, to all OSes (no macOS release has wayland 
>> support). Wayland support should be added in its own dedicated set of 
>> ports, not shoe horned into one it has no place being in.
>> 
>> cheers Chris
>> 
>> > 
>> > I think that at some point we'll start seeing Wayland-only versions of
>> > applications from the Gnome universe.
>> > 
>> > R.
>> >>
>> >> Not really sure what you are asking. legacy-support package is blind to
>> >> what ports might be using it. It just supplies functionality missing on
>> >> older OSes. If some hypothetical future wayland port needs these
>> >> functions, it presumably could use the PG in the same way as everything
>> >> else does.
>> >>
>> >> Chris
>> >>
>> >> On 27/09/2019 9:32 am, René J.V. Bertin wrote:
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> A quick question to the legacy-support devs: do you have any interest in
>> >>> whether or not these support functions (plus whatever else is needed and
>> >>> doable) could help building Wayland for Mac?
>> >>>
>> >>> FWIW, I brought up the idea of running Wayland with Jeremy H. back when he
>> >>> was still maintaining XQuartz, and he was very positive about the idea
>> >>> (including how it could improve X11 support - there's some sort of X11 server
>> >>> "backend" for Wayland).
>> >>>
>> >>> Proper Wayland support on Mac should also provide a more modern (and better
>> >>> integrated) platform for traditional Unix apps, possibly even for KDE/KF5 as
>> >>> an eco-system without need for patching Qt.
>> >>>
>> >>> R.
>> >>>
>> > 
>> > 
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