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[Ken Cunningham]

sorry —we’re 835 openssl installs. wrong drop-down.

K

> On Jun 13, 2020, at 8:56 AM, Ken Cunningham <ken.cunningham.webuse at gmail.com> wrote:
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> No doubt it caused some tempest.
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> I was wrong, homebrew’s published stats say they have 5 million openssl installs this year <https://formulae.brew.sh/analytics/install/365d/ <https://formulae.brew.sh/analytics/install/365d/>>
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> and our analytics say we have 547 <https://ports.macports.org/port/openssl/stats?days=30&days_ago=0 <https://ports.macports.org/port/openssl/stats?days=30&days_ago=0>>
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> And if you think that doesn’t drive everyone’s decision-making extremely powerfully, I would say we are missing the marketing train.
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> Here’s their blurb <https://docs.brew.sh/Analytics <https://docs.brew.sh/Analytics>> about justifying it.
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> Again, I know MacPorts is not going to change that (no point now). But from a ‘business’ point of view, it was masterful.
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> K
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>> On Jun 13, 2020, at 8:25 AM, Andrew Janke <floss at apjanke.net <mailto:floss at apjanke.net>> wrote:
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>> Hi y'all,
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>> I was a core Homebrew maintainer at the time they added analytics. Just
>> want to say that Saagar is right; there were a *lot* of Homebrew users
>> who did in fact have a problem with it.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Andrwe
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>> On 6/12/20 9:03 PM, Saagar Jha wrote:
>>> I believe the lack of change there is almost certainly a matter of the project’s personal stance rather than “nobody having a problem with it”. In fact, after the change was merged in there was a fairly long discussion about first disclosing that there were analytics collected at all (which did eventually get implemented) and then switching off of Google Analytics or making it opt-in, which weren’t. Actually, there were multiple discussions but they like the original were generally closed as “WONTFIX” and this has been the policy to this day.
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>>> Personally, I would be fairly disappointed if MacPorts went opt-in as such policies suffer from statistical issues in addition to the obvious privacy-related ones.
>>> 
>>> Saagar Jha
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>>>> On Jun 12, 2020, at 16:48, Ken Cunningham <ken.cunningham.webuse at gmail.com <mailto:ken.cunningham.webuse at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>>>> Just FYI Homebrew has always been opt-out for stats. Nobody seems to have a problem with that sufficient to make them change that policy.
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>>>> We'll never know if that is why they seem to have 10 x the users on their stats page.
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>>>> K
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