Desolate Condition

[Ruben Di Battista]

Since now we're starting to have stats collected, it might be maybe worth
it to provide binaries instead of standard variants, more for the most
requested ones?

On Sun, 4 Apr 2021, 04:07 Joshua Root, <jmr at macports.org> wrote:

> On 2021-4-4 11:35 , Craig Treleaven wrote:
> >> On Apr 3, 2021, at 8:21 PM, Wowfunhappy at gmail.com
> >> <mailto:Wowfunhappy at gmail.com> <wowfunhappy at gmail.com
> >> <mailto:wowfunhappy at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> I see this misconception /all over the place/, that Homebrew is fast
> >> because it uses prebuilt binaries, whereas MacPorts makes you wait
> >> while software is compiled. It can't /just/ be due to outdated
> >> information, if we're more than a decade out from when the buildbot
> >> went live.
> >>
> >> I know it's just one data point, but I thought the replies I got on
> >> this Hacker News comment today were interesting. I can understand why
> >> he/she got confused, and I wonder if there's anything MacPorts could
> >> do to make it clearer. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26678498
> >> <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26678498>
> >
> > It happens that I just did a self update and upgraded 20 ports on 10.15.
> >   6 or the 20 were built from source.  I believe this is higher than
> > usual due to the backlog on the 10.15 builbot.  Even in the best case,
> > however, a fair number of ports will be built from source for the
> > well-known reasons.  It would be interesting to know, say, how many of
> > our most-requested ports are always built from source.
> >
> >
> https://ports.macports.org/statistics/ports/?days=30&first=-req_count&second=-total_count&third=port
> > <
> https://ports.macports.org/statistics/ports/?days=30&first=-req_count&second=-total_count&third=port
> >
> >
> > Eg, git is our second-most requested port and it is always built from
> > source AFAIK.
> >
> > Almost any reasonably complex package will have some of its dependencies
> > that must be built from source.
> >
> > To the average user, I would suggest that we should emphasize that
> > MacPorts installs binaries whenever allowed by licensing but makes a
> > serious effort to avoid contravening the various open source licenses.
> >   Plus MacPorts offers many more options (“variants”) to customize
> > installations and offers a wide breadth of packages.
>
> I wrote a new FAQ and slightly reworded the one about universal
> binaries. The latter was originally written before the buildbot existed,
> so it was saying "build" where "install" is now more accurate. However
> +universal is still a non-default variant and so very often won't be
> available as a binary.
>
> - Josh
>
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