Recent events ...

brian bholder+macports at gmail.com
Tue Feb 4 19:13:49 UTC 2025


Thanks Ken! Keep being excellent.


On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 1:50 PM Gagan Sidhu via macports-dev <
macports-dev at lists.macports.org> wrote:

> there’s nothing to suggest i didn’t follow the code of conduct given below.
>
> i engaged the individual multiple times and corrected them, where they
> deliberately (this is the key thing) ignored my responses.
>
> as time went on they would pivot to this multiple times, in spite of me
> correcting them. this was over a couple of weeks!
>
> the github exchange is quite clear:
> https://github.com/macports/macports-ports/pull/2603
>
> they continued to repeat the falsity of all nodejs using the bundled libuv
> on a bug ticket: https://trac.macports.org/ticket/71475
>         -again for the umpteenth time, only nodejs20 and 22 had doneso.
>
> you are entitled to your opinion, but please do not conflate my
> intolerance for uncivilised behaviour as anything but.
>
> it wasn’t personal. this is supposed to be a sophisticated project with
> sophisticated people. this person decided to use their position of
> authority to twist my words multiple times, never admitting any error, and
> i felt it was necessary to confront them.
>
> i have not acted this way with others, so the audience is free to
> determine where my heart lay during the exchange.
>
> was my pursuit of correctness at the expense of manners? i don’t think so.
>         -sometimes the truth hurts.
>
> and while for sure his contributions will be missed, it looks some of my
> words were finally absorbed.
>         -i’m hopeful he decides to come back and engage in good faith.
>
> i believe it was obvious why he was doing this to me in the first place.
>         -i’m not going to dignify or explain what i think or believe was
> the reason for ken’s uncivilised conduct.
>                 -but i will say i was probably better contributing
> anonymously, and it would have likely not spiralled.
>
> for those in the audience whom i offended: i apologise.
>
>
> > On Feb 4, 2025, at 11:18 AM, Nicklas Larsson via macports-dev <
> macports-dev at lists.macports.org> wrote:
> >
> > Ken,
> >
> > This was sad news indeed! I’m sorry, but respect your decision.
> > I had not much, if any at all, to contribute to the issue(s) of dispute.
> However, I found the personal attack on you from this individual utterly
> appalling.
> > I’m not aware of MacPorts have a Code of Conduct, a commonly used CoC in
> open source projects is [1]. Even if I have no formal say in the matter, I
> would support Ryan’s suggestion for permanent ban. Wouldn’t care less if
> this is would be a A. Einstein level genius.
> >
> > Best,
> > Nicklas
> >
> >
> > [1] https://www.contributor-covenant.org/version/2/1/code_of_conduct/
> >
> >
> >> On 4 Feb 2025, at 18:44, Ken Cunningham <
> ken.cunningham.webuse at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> First of all, I’ve been pretty strongly attacked, as you can see.
> >>
> >> Gagan has been around MacPorts for about two or three months. He has
> two commits so far to his name:
> >>
> >> https://github.com/macports/macports-ports/commits?author=i3roly
> >>
> >> You can feel free to read the entirety of our interaction in the PR
> where he felt slighted:
> >>
> >> https://github.com/macports/macports-ports/pull/26031
> >>
> >> Any failings of mine in there are about the best I will ever be able to
> do.
> >>
> >> There was also one brief email exchange with him where expressed his
> displeasure with me, and I pointed out he was very new and there was much
> to learn.
> >>
> >> All that being said — and not strictly because of that interaction, but
> in respect to other general life events, I have re-evaluated how I choose
> to spend my time. Life is short, as we all know, and there are only so many
> hours in the day. I have resigned from the MacPorts’ committer team, and
> deleted all my MacPorts installations on older systems and all my VMs.
> >>
> >> What little I may have contributed over the past 10 years that people
> may have found useful, I hope you enjoy. What failings I may have had are
> life’s foibles. Like everyone, we all try to do our best.
> >>
> >> It was fun, in ways, keeping all those older systems humming — but I
> have moved them all to linux now, and I don’t use them any more anyway.
> >>
> >> I wish you all well in your future adventures!
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Ken
> >
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Gagan
>
>
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