ion3 window manager no longer available

[Joerg van den Hoff]

On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 12:22:20PM -0500, William Davis wrote:
> 
> On Dec 17, 2007, at 10:44 AM, Joerg van den Hoff wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 02:01:58PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> >>On 2007-12-17 13:35:00 +0100, Joerg van den Hoff wrote:
> >>>since  `ion3'  actually  is a very fine window manager for a
> >>>certain type of work, may I ask  you  to  check  whether  it
> >>>would'nt  be  sufficient  to  modify  the  package info line
> >>>accordingly with some "wildcard" disclaimer of the kind:
> >>>
> >>>"if  this  version is older than xxx weeks, please take note
> >>>that this version is considered "obsolete" by  the  original
> >>>author. upgrade manually to the most recent version found at
> >>>http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/  before  sending   bug
> >>>reports or questions to the author"
> >>
> >>The name also needs to be changed.
> >
> >what  name?   the  name  of  the  package?   why not call it
> >`ion3_x11-wm'  or  whatever?   I  think  one  should  be  as
> >pragmatic as possible about this: problem is artficial (from
> >macports point of view, anyway), but ion3 is good  software,
> >so  make  the  name  change, explain reason in package info,
> >provide package and forget about the "noise". this  possible
> >or not?
> >
> >joerg
> >_______________________________________________
> >
> 
> Because using the name ion3 in any form would be a license violation.  

ok, got it. but the debian solution (some other arbitrary name) would
work. so why can't you just include this (the renaming of the
executable) into the patch procedure.

> Given the author's
> propensity for flame wars (not to mention possible law suits) I think  
> IMHO we are better off without him.
> 
> May I suggest you complain to the author instead.  Why doesnt he  

believe me, I did. but you can only talk so much. 

> incorporate a check for updates in his software
> and tell the end user there is no support for non-current versions if  
> this bothers him so much?

he will tell you that the user's are'nt going to read this, so it's not
prominent enough etc etc.
> 

nevertheless, `ion3' is a very good tool (the author's attitude does
not shine through :-)), so I would really appriciate it, if it's availability
could somehow be secured.

joerg