Universal Binaries

[Timothy Lee]

Hmm.. thats interesting.
So, does that imply that aqua provides a X11-like API (w/ libs) or  
does that mean that the actual people writing packages (like  
openoffice) need to support aqua calls conditionally compiled in on  
detection of the aqua include/libs?

thanks

On Jan 24, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Harry van der Wolf wrote:

> It is something completely different. Most linux, netbsd and freebsd  
> packages rely on X11. MacOSX has support for x11 but the native  
> windowing system of MacOSX is aqua. Using the -x11 option means that  
> you don't build for X11. An increasing amount of binaries and  
> libraries support native aqua and in that case I don't want to build  
> for X11. It's slower, bigger (X11 takes also memory and resources  
> next to the already available aqua) and ugglier. But the last is off  
> course a matter of taste.
> Note that some binaries and libraries are still considered beta  
> under aqua (like Gimp) but function very good.
> If you take a look at openoffice (not macports) you see what I mean.  
> It has already been available for MacOSX in X11 form for a long  
> period.
> Recently they also released a 3.0 beta version for Aqua which works  
> fine.
> NeoOffice is an aqua spin-off of OpenOffice and has a native Aqua  
> interface for about 1½ years now. In versioning it runs a bit behind  
> OpenOffice (OOO 3.0.x versus NOO 2.2.5)
>
> Note also that some packages that are compiled with -x11, simply  
> miss the X11 gui but only compile/create the command line versions.
>
> Harry
>
>
>
> 2009/1/24 Timothy Lee <TimLee at rochester.rr.com>
> Harry-
> You made reference to adding the -x11 tag to your variants.conf.
> By doing this, do you force macports to use Apple's X11? Or is it  
> something else entirely different?
>
> thanks
>
>
> On Jan 24, 2009, at 12:59 PM, Harry van der Wolf wrote:
>
>> 2009/1/24 Timothy Lee <TimLee at rochester.rr.com>
>> Thanks for the reply Harry-
>> I'm fairly sure that I will need to lipo together the builds for  
>> Musicbrainz' Picard.
>> So - in your experience what are all the options that I must set  
>> after a fresh src install to have a 10.5 setup building binaries  
>> for 10.4?
>>
>>
>> Nothing more than setting the right options in your macports.conf  
>> and then see how far you get.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/1/24 Timothy Lee <timlee at rochester.rr.com>
>>
>> On Jan 24, 2009, at 3:36 AM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
>>
>> On Jan 23, 2009, at 09:11, <timlee at rochester.rr.com> <timlee at rochester.rr.com 
>> > wrote:
>>
>> Joshua Root <jmr at macports.org> wrote:
>> Timothy Lee wrote:
>> Do you know if its possible for me (on leopard) to build x86 code  
>> (all
>> my macports ports) that will also run on Tiger?
>> Short of physical access to an intel 10.4 install, is there  
>> anything I
>> can do?
>>
>> Don't forget to use Reply All so the discussion goes to the list as
>> well. There are no guarantees that this will work, but the way to do
>> what you want would be to set universal_target to 10.4,
>> universal_sysroot to /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk, and
>> universal_archs to i386. Then build everything with +universal  
>> (best to
>> add it to your variants.conf).
>>
>> Also set x11prefix to /usr/X11R6; Leopard's X11 prefix /usr/X11  
>> does not exist on Tiger.
>>
>>
>> If I do this, how will I be able to run the executables on my 10.5  
>> setup?
>>
>>
>>
>> I ran into the same issue and simply decided to make links.
>>
>> On Tiger I simply did "sudo ln -s /usr/X11R6 /usr/X11". If you  
>> build on Tiger and bring them to Leopard you do
>> "sudo ln -s /usr/X11 /usr/X11R6".
>>
>> This works only on your own system off course, unless you make an  
>> installer that checks whether it runs on Tiger or Leopard and  
>> creates a softlink accordingly.
>>
>> Harry
>>
>>
>>
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