MacPorts vs xquartz? (was Re: openmotif in macports dependencies and xquartz?)
Tommy Bollman
tommyb06 at student.uia.no
Sat Apr 2 09:18:10 PDT 2011
Hello Jeremy.
The problem I had was that I installed the +huge port of vim.
I have a good setup of xterm from within xterm. ( I start XQuartz from spotlight).
When I then started up vim from withing the xterm, giving the command "gu", then X11.app
would start and do the window handling for vim I believe.
The result was that I ended up having both X11.app and XQuartz.app visible in the command bar. (The one I get when I press cmd-Tab ).
I think the problems goes for other apps as well.
Since then I have installed a port which doesn't use X11, and MacVim, but I really would like
to have the menus and such from within XQuartz.
I wonder how I fix this, so that vim/xim only uses XQuartz as the window server.
-If the problems would go away if I recompile, using the libraries found in the /opt tree?
Thanks
Den 1. apr. 2011 kl. 03.30 skrev Jeremy Huddleston:
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> On Mar 31, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Tommy Bollman wrote:
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>> Hello.
>> Can I read this as I might manage to get vim/xim building with only macports libraries and not the ones shipped with Apple
>
> Yes. That is the policy in MacPorts (to prefer in-tree dependencies rather than system-provided ones).
>
>> -And make it work without firing up X11.app ?
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> I'm not sure what you're asking... You could use any X server you want...
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>>
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>> Den 31. mars 2011 kl. 23.25 skrev Jeremy Huddleston:
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>>>
>>> On Mar 31, 2011, at 11:01 AM, Philip J. Schneider wrote:
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>>>> Kinda highjacking my own thread here... :-)
>>>>
>>>> Considering Jeremy's feedback, I downloaded openmotif and all its dependencies, and so I can now build/run an X11 app using MacPorts-provided headers and libs. (That is, with only /opt/local-based paths specified in XCode.)
>>>>
>>>> A few questions:
>>>>
>>>> 1. In very general terms, how do the xquartz-provided X includes and libs differ from those provided by MacPorts? Pro/con on using one vs the other?
>>>
>>> The ones in MacPorts are generally the latest versions.
>>> The ones from XQuartz are also generally the latest version as of the release date.
>>> The ones from Apple are a bit more dated / stable for consistency across major releases of the OS.
>>>
>>>> 2. If one did want to distribute an X11 application that needed one or more X-related libraries not provided by the default system (e.g. openmotif), what would be the recommended approach? I might wish to assume that the users would not want to build up their own fink or MacPorts installation... :-)
>>>
>>> I'd recommend using the host X11 libraries. Link your application (including extra libraries) against those, and ship everything not part of the system. You could use something like /opt/myapp as the prefix for building all your bits and just ship /opt/myapp (and probably place /opt/myapp/bin into $PATH via /etc/paths.h/myapp
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>> Best regards
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