Force Macports to use XQuartz as X11 dependency

Jeff Singleton gvibe06 at gmail.com
Mon Aug 30 14:08:26 PDT 2010


And I submit that using a phrase such as "consistent support for older
machines and not violating /usr/X11" is lazy and resource wasting
rubbish.  If XQuartz already has at least some of the dependencies
required ... it is a waste to have to build them anyway, instead of
having Macports at least look for and honor dependencies that already
exist and provide the necessary pieces.

If you took offense to my use of the work "lazy" ... then it is of my
humble opinion that you are OK with status quo ... thus you are lazy.
Leaving things the way they are in order to support older hardware
just isn't justifiable anymore.

As far as what I do and what I don't do  .... well ... I'm a
power-user.  So I do what I can and leave the other stuff alone.   I
never stated I could fix it .. I just stated I believe it needs to be
fixed. As far as I thought ... a mailing list is the right place to
discuss these things.  If you would rather not discuss...then don't
reply....its that easy.

-- 
J


On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Brandon S Allbery KF8NH
<allbery at kf8nh.com> wrote:
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> On 8/30/10 15:27 , Jeff Singleton wrote:
>> So there is no way to avoid building the truckload of X dependencies
>> needed for a single application...followed by cleaning up all of those
>> dependencies because I only needed them to build one thing.
>>
>> To me .. that just doesn't sound like consistent support for older
>> machines ... it sounds lazy.
>
> That's an odd conclusion to reach, considering that someone has to maintain
> all those dependencies....
>
> I submit that you have never tried to maintain a large number of software
> packages across a large number of systems.  I do so as part of my day job,
> and indeed we build our own dependencies so that things match up as much as
> possible between platforms (several Linux and Solaris releases currently;
> this has also included AIX and Tru64) to simply building and debugging.  (I
> would also add that "you don't do the things that are most convenient for
> me!" is not laziness on the part of MacPorts maintainers.)
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